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Does anyone know when the LR notices come out?

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does that new potential employer call Cisco to check background and hear what? Do they hear "that person is a current Cisco employee, but on LoA (period).? Or do they hear Cisco say: "that person was let go by Cisco, but chose to take a LoA in the mean-time"? I am wondering how the LoA is looked upon but future hiring firms? Good, bad, neutral?

I can't speak to what future hiring firms think about leave of absence, early retirement or limited restructuring, a.k.a. lay-offs, but I can tell you what they'll hear from Cisco if they contact HR.

All a manager, director, VP, SVP or HR is allowed to say is that "John Doe was hired on DD MMM, YYYY and terminated on DD MMM, YYYY. Or, in the case of being on a leave of absence, is still an employee. I don't know if they can or can't state whether or not you're on a leave of absence or not.

I've heard others say that prospective employers don't like hearing you've been laid off, but in my experience when I've had to tell that to interviewers it hasn't seemed to be that much of a negative. Being terminated for cause is an understandable kiss-of-death, but LR's are out of your control. If you spin it as your team/function/business unit was cut, it looks better than saying that you were culled in a company's purge of the bottom 5 or 10%. Saying you were cut because you were older and more expensive than younger workers is not going to help you, and I'd guess, saying you took an early retirement package is pretty much the same because it tells the prospective employer that you're old without them having to ask your age. But, in my case, when I get to a face to face interview, it's obvious that I'm old. That and the year I graduated college.

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Post ID: @2xkt+16yL1cts

The slides with the dates for all programs are in the PDF that you can download from the check-in recording page. Click the August 14 check-in link on CEC (pic of Fran) and see the third file listed in Supplemental Files on the right. On page 12 of the PDF, look at the language in the bottom right: "should your current position be eliminated." My check-in notes for the slide on page 13 say that Oct 7 is notification that you may be impacted "if we don't meet our targets." But even so, if targets are met by eliminating jobs at that point, why would mine be spared...

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Post ID: @dmm+16yL1cts

Ah, right. I forgot a bout the 'Take a leave of Absence" option. What do folks think about that one? Let's say I take a LoA... look around for another job, get some interest in 4 months... does that new potential employer call Cisco to check background and hear what? Do they hear "that person is a current Cisco employee, but on LoA (period).? Or do they hear Cisco say: "that person was let go by Cisco, but chose to take a LoA in the mean-time"? I am wondering how the LoA is looked upon but future hiring firms? Good, bad, neutral?

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Post ID: @crh+16yL1cts

They are calling it Program #3, notice to go out Oct 7th.

Workforce Transition Options - Enabling Transparency, Choice and Time

Phase #1 (a) Optional LR Package, (b) Step-Out Leave or (c) Stay Put and Look
Phase #2 - Those who chose Stay put and Look and do not secure a new role may be notified of job elimination

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Post ID: @eys+16yL1cts

There are 3 programs - the ER, IRW, and LR.

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Post ID: @kmy+16yL1cts

Three ways or TWO ways? What's the third way?

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Post ID: @ojb+16yL1cts

October 7th. “At risk” means you’re fired if you don’t find another role. You have 3 ways to exit, but you have to choose one of those. You won’t be in your current role anymore, guaranteed.

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Post ID: @srp+16yL1cts

I honestly don't know - I don't remember seeing a date for that and I can't find that information in any of the ppts.

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Post ID: @dab+16yL1cts

I mean October 7 is when they tell you if your job is at a risk

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Post ID: @lld+16yL1cts

Isn't that October 7.....

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Post ID: @xpr+16yL1cts

Is there a date for when the notices come out? And doesn't your manager have to "deliver" it personally - it doesn't come through an email?

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Post ID: @szi+16yL1cts

3:30 Eastern Time. lol

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Post ID: @wsi+16yL1cts

3:30 Eastern Time.

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