Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Management replaced Leadership?

Is this the issue? There are pockets of brilliance in Cisco but layers of management are making it harder to join the dots and innovate for customers. Leadership (G13+) offsites use to happen at a vineyard, then a Monterey hotel and by 2010 it was the Moscone center. Now it would need to be Vegas! #Leadershipcanfixthis

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I notice that there is huge layer of management. From engineer -> manager -> director -> VP -> VP -> SVP -> SVP -> EVP -> Chuck. The LR is still talking about engineer level. Something is seriously wrong. I don't understand why we have so many VP in Cisco.

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Many Cisco "People Managers" should honestly not be managing people.

Too much middle-management, making good money, and are masters at navigating a strange system.

I get it, the money is good. It was toxic for me.

Was sad to go but realize how cultlike I had become once deprogrammed.

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Post ID: @lia+16zK8CBC

Cisco is experiencing the same problem as Apple back in the 90s after Steve Jobs got fired. Good company with way io many product lines. Luckily Apple realized their mistake and rehired Jobs who cleaned things up. Cisco's problem is JC drove Cisco into the ground with CR driving it deeper into a hole. And Steve Jobs being dead and unavailable to dig us out is a problem.

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