i work for one of the large IT oursourcing service providers. apparently cisco has recently asked for proposals and quotes on outsourcing all of IT. this is the first time we heard that a large tech company which happens to be also an IT solutions provider is trying to outsource all of their IT. would anyone here know why Cisco would do that?
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Good lord - are you totally dim? We have a solid track record of replacing old but a little clunky tools with cr@p that barely works.
LOL! I hope asking me if I'm dim is sarcasm, because that's what I was describing.
Adam was a piece of Sh!t in it's own right, Cisco people are too snobby to use the windows tools that are provided within the suite.
Why use the tool provided by Microsoft when you can justify hundreds of hours of wasted time developing something for a tool that is already working?
Are you kidding me? Show me a MS tool that lets every user in a company manage their own groups securely. With the standard MS tool, you have to be a domain admin to manage groups, which then allows you to manage anyone's groups, not just the one's you own. Besides, Cisco is primarily a UNIX shop, not a Windows shop.
Adam was a piece of Sh!t in it's own right, Cisco people are too snobby to use the windows tools that are provided within the suite.
Why use the tool provided by Microsoft when you can justify hundreds of hours of wasted time developing something for a tool that is already working?
Good lord - are you totally dim? We have a solid track record of replacing old but a little clunky tools with cr@p that barely works.
Cisco IT is a big scam, most of the teams using third party tools without even knowing how the tool works, all the complex and critical work is done by actual vendor providing the tool rest small work is done by partners. You actually need 2 - 3 resources to handle the entire development and ops but instead they will put 30. This explains why you are hearing it.
We used to have an active directory account management (ADAM) tool that was in-house developed and worked well for over a decade. Now we have this new "Groups" tool to manage our active directory groups. This tool s—s. Turns out, it's not even an in-house developed tool but a third party tool Cisco pays for. When you open a case because something doesn't work, the IT team has to open a case with the vendor and just plays middle man for you.
Maybe I'm an old dinosaur, but when old tools work better than new tools, someone tell me why we switched other than to reduce head count.
This is not true - first hand knowledge. Cisco IT is so vast and complex no single company can do it all. There are quotes being asked for new initiatives which are funded centrally and that too quarter to quarter , the direction is to go data driven as against just give it out to any vendor.
Cisco IT is a big scam, most of the teams using third party tools without even knowing how the tool works, all the complex and critical work is done by actual vendor providing the tool rest small work is done by partners. You actually need 2 - 3 resources to handle the entire development and ops but instead they will put 30. This explains why you are hearing it.
IT is just a "good ol boys" club of Directors/VPs outsourcing jobs to India. The smart ones are able to quietly get their family members contract jobs. Resulting in entire departments filled with the same family.
new clown 🤡 of a CISO that was hired from Adobe is trying to completely outsource is OPs like he did at Adobe. breaches were his trademark accomplishments
IT is a lazy sorry shop, we did a audit for all the Cisco IT routers/switches and load balancers, they are either so outdated that Cisco don't even support them no more.. or the IOS version is so old that no one updates them, we found few devices laying around with 9.x iOS still connected.. there were pix firewall laying around not sure when they were patched. When we ask for it, the answer says we have no idea where the owner is, few routers/fws are in international locations. the Oracle ERP was built decades ago, however, ties down the $ for people as these people (oracle dab)who built it just want to sit on it and milk the cow until retirement.. time to dismantle IT. these dba could be from India and Usa or anywhere..
a good example is the Mac self support where a Mac user fed up and built a support page himself and a community grown outside IT and focus IT to rethink. almost 99% of cases are resolved by self help on that forum including parallel built of windows os on Mac, constant self install patches, and packages are all packaged by users and send it on the forum initially. IT got so scared for loosing their job after this and then take it over ..
we end up reduce IT to skeletons and completely self help.. now move to cloud.
All of IT sounds a bit even for cisco. That being said, the CIO has a track record of offshoring a few thousand jobs everywhere she goes.
IT was already outsourced to Infosys years ago..... almost 70-80 percent.
Who would buy the different parts of Cisco?
I heard the opposite.. trying to reduce red badges..
Looks like it's getting ready to be bought. 20 years back a big 5 starting with the letter "I" had won a billion $ plus all of IT contract from another. That company doesn't exist any more. Bigger fish gobbled it up. Also, the P&L account owners at CSCO would have got better returns from the cloud-based SForce over the overweight overfed Orca ERP systems. Now that call should have been made 10 years back. Cost cutting can take you only this far.