Not much need for a union if you’re working from home. What are you gonna do? Go outside and picket your own front door?
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To Post ID: @9koe+176DHmwj
You seem to be unstable, spamming all the threads with this stuff. Don't you have anything else better to do? Apparently not. You are coming across as a crazy person you know. Maybe you need a long vacation in a rubber room or something. Whatever it is, take care of it fast so we don't read about you on the morning news rags.
Union paid to post crackpots still at it. They should look for a real job instead of being paid to troll and spew hate on message boards. But given most union members don't even work the job they were hired to do without hourly complaints... just say'n!
@7adi+176DHmwj i think you are a sock puppet having conversations with yourself here. i would bet most of the postings here are all from you. lame, just lame! you need professional help mate!
@7iev+176DHmwj, yawn down-voting junior.
Yawn, paid-to-post union slugs still at it.
@7iev+176DHmwj, yawn down-voting junior.
Union Paid to Post fools still at it I see.
You can lead a horse to water
but anti-union child will always be a down-voting id–t.
“After working on the wireless side for 11 years I have never seen anyone I worked with be mistreated, not once, not ever.
I guess they are all liars over on the wireless page, LOL!!
: @6kns+176DHmwj " There’s not much option for craft technicians in this field. In some areas, these are the only companies for this craft. So if these are the only options, would you still not see why people would join CWA/IBEW? "
This is nonsense. No one should be compelled to join a union to work at a company, period. If you want to have a union be your rep for say, Verizon fine, more power to you. But for the love of GOD don't compel anyone else to join! Good for you for wanting to be part of a union, I don't and I should not be banned, barred or stopped from working and making a living because I don't want the union to have any part of my life.
All you talk about "freedom", your "rights".. well where is the freedom and the rights of people that want to work but are forced to join a union to work! This is WRONG and it's unamerican. So you union people, never talk about FREEDOM AND YOUR RIGHTS as you clearly DENY IT TO OTHERS THAT WANT TO MAKE A LIVING!
That’s good that you don’t need to be apart of a union. Although, there’s not much option for joining on the wireless side unless you’re in that one wireless store in New York.
I think a point was missed here. A statement was made that “I can’t see why anyone would join a union” and a post followed pointing out that new “craft” employees have changed their lifestyle by leaving Comcast, DTV, and Dish. By coming to VZ and joining the union, their pay and benefits had a significant increase.
There’s not much option for craft technicians in this field. In some areas, these are the only companies for this craft.
So if these are the only options, would you still not see why people would join CWA/IBEW?
looks like the Union paid-to-post foools are at it again!
Just be on the lookout for the Union-Clowns that will now comer here and accuse people of up/down voting to skew the vote. It's their MO these days. They just can't handle the truth so they accuse people with no actual facts to back up their claims, no proof! Just the accusation. So while its fashionable that they are accusing people of crimes with no proof, wait for it! Wait for it! You know it's coming!
Ill try to give a sh– about your opinion while I'm sitting on the beach sipping Margaritas when I retire next year. Ill try.....
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@6fgu+176DHmwj
Yeah....you're doing SO well financially that you feel the need to come here and talk this nonsense.
Just Another p-ss-d off low level Buffon whos been treated like c-ap for years. Congratulations on the Huge pension (not likely) . Hope you've figured in paying 2k a month for for insurance for the rest of your life....
Let me guess what’s at the top of your list...
*I know how to invest, I don't need a union id–t taking my money and using for things I don't agree with, that is called theft. "Dues- cheap and worth being able to retire."
*I am paid the same as my counter parts at Sprint and T-mobile and Orange and O2, Vodefone, I am not under paid for the work I do. "Pay- above the private sector in same industry"
*My benefits are the same as those in the union and this year we got one more week vacation than Verizon union employees. "Benefits- best in the business"
*After 8 hours of work I get overtime, on the 12th hour of work I get double time. If I work mon-fri 8 hours each day and then work over 4 hours on Sat 'any' time worked on Sunday is double time. "Overtime- automatic and even double time"
*Seniority means nothing. A persons performance is all that should matter. If I am with the company for two years and I am a stellar performer and out perform someone that has been then 10 years, then yes, the the 10 year employee needs to go. You are no owed a job sunny boy and if you don't perform you should not be protected for slouch on the job. And this goes with new hires. Time served does not excuse bad performance and should never be allowed to trump a better performer. "Seniority- new hires can’t bump you"
*This is cr@p and it protects dead weight and slouchy and lazy workers. Layoffs should be based on job performance and nothing else. Commitment to the company, give me a break! Union workers are not committed to the company! Ever heard of striking? You union id–ts walkout out on the company, no loyalty at all and you hurt the customers too with your walkouts! The wireless side has never had a labor strike so just based on the merits wireless employees are clearly more loyal to the company than union employees! "Layoffs- goes by your time/commitment to company"
Man... those are good reasons.
*It's dying because there are not reasons to have unions anymore! I just looked it up myself, 13% of the workers in the USA are union. That should speak volumes to the entire concept of the need for unions in modern time. If your unions were this grand pie in the sky thing you all claim it to be them why are there only 13% of the workers in this country unionized? I will tell you why, Unions part of history, a relic of the past and people just don't see the need for them anymore hence a 13% workforce membership. Numbers don't lie! "it’s dying because of people like you."
UM... I have a 401K, I have a private saving fund that has out performed ALL union "pension" and it's a well know that that Wireless employees get more vacations time than union employees. New hires get 3 weeks right out of the stating gates at Wireless, not at union shops in Verizon. "advocacy done in the face of mistreatment" After working on the wireless side for 11 years I have never seen anyone I worked with be mistreated, not once, not ever. You are seeming boggy men where they don't exist. The fact is, and facts matter as opposed to your opinion, unions are a thing of the past as it was put. None of you union people can explain why only 13% of the entire labor force in the United States is union labor. If your unions were so grand then logic would dictate that the % of union labor would be much hire than 13%. Union labor in Verizon's world wide work force adds up to only 4.5%. So please, stop telling people they need the union, they don't.
you seem to be the only child posting here, like the burnt pot calling the kettle back! I saw and watched the up votes roll in on pro union postings within a few moments of the post. Maybe you are clearing your history and up voting your own posting, just say'n.
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Correction:
"In fact, it appears the total opposite is true, as an anti-union comment posted minutes ago can get 10, 20, 30 downvotes within a minutes."
That should have been written as "In fact, it appears the total opposite is true, as a pro-union comment posted minutes ago can get 10, 20, 30 downvotes within a minutes."
However, the child trolling these waters will no doubt seize upon this mis-type, and opt to ignore the greater truthfulness of the point being made, rather than having to defend the childish act they are perpetrating.
4 minutes ago by Fletcher Reede
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Post ID: @6uni+176DHmwj "
@6pis, I hope your blissful ignorance is never interrupted by a full exclosure of the vacation a union member is entitled to, the hourly wage a union member is entitled to, the pension amount a union member is entitled to, and the 401k a union member is entitled to, as well as the advocacy done in the face of mistreatment a union member is entitled to. If you knew the true story, rather than what you have been spoon-fed, you would be kicking yourself for your abundant ignorance.
On another note, despite their having spawned you, I wish your parents well.
Correction:
"In fact, it appears the total opposite is true, as an anti-union comment posted minutes ago can get 10, 20, 30 downvotes within a minutes."
That should have been written as "In fact, it appears the total opposite is true, as a pro-union comment posted minutes ago can get 10, 20, 30 downvotes within a minutes."
However, the child trolling these waters will no doubt seize upon this mis-type, and opt to ignore the greater truthfulness of the point being made, rather than having to defend the childish act they are perpetrating.
I will take up that challenge. I work on the wireless side and we don't have a union here. I make great money and I am well taken care of with raises each year and I am happy with each raise I got. And, NO I never begged for a raise, I earned them. I have great vacation, more than the union has to offer. My medical is great and I have no issue with it's cost or the plan I have. I have very flexible hours and my manger and director empowers me. I don't have to report to a shop or a "barn" and I don't have anyone micromanaging me nor do I have to report to a union member anything. I can work remotely at least 50% of the time and often do! Therefor I can be with my parents more often that are in need of a little extra care. Verizon paid for my Masters degree, thank you Verizon! After 19 years and 67 days with Verizon Wireless I have zero complaints. There is no reason for me to be part of a union, none.
There is a child on this thread, and this website, a child who always accuses people with pro-union sentiment of upvoting comments, comments that show the union in a favorable light, multiple times, and accuses those same people of downvoting voices to the contrary multiple times. This child has even made the claim that the union is "paying" people to do so.
However, a fair evaluation of both this thread, and of the others, does not bear this contention out at all.
In fact, it appears the total opposite is true, as an anti-union comment posted minutes ago can get 10, 20, 30 downvotes within a minutes.
I'm not a betting man but, if I were, I think the child making those accusations should take a long hard look in the mirror before accusing others of doing what the child is very obviously guilty of.
Name your “100 reasons to not be apart of a union” .
Let me guess what’s at the top of your list...
Dues- cheap and worth being able to retire.
Pay- above the private sector in same industry
Benefits- best in the business
Overtime- automatic and even double time
Seniority- new hires can’t bump you
Layoffs- goes by your time/commitment to company
Man... those are good reasons.
it’s dying because of people like you.
You cannot understand why people would want to be apart of the union these days?
Maybe you’re not a craft employee who came from Comcast, DTV, or DISH. Just ask them how much their pay/benefits increased when they were hired at Verizon as a union member. It’s not a revolving door here like those other 3 companies. Employees don’t leave for a reason.
Being hired at Verizon and joining CWA/IIBEW, new employees increased their pay/benefits by 50-75%. Those other 3 companies pay you by production numbers that are purposely unattainable. So why would you not join the CWA/IBEW to make more money, have better benefits, live a better lifestyle, and be able hone your craft without worry of no raise or pay decreases?
Keep going in those yearly reviews to beg for a cost of living increase. That’s the time when they feed u the lie and say that the company hasn’t made its benchmarks so raises will be tight if any.
I’ll pay my dues and know it’s guaranteed.
BTW.. I have an engineering degree and was in that field for 10+ years working hard, exceeding production numbers, going through yearly reviews, jumping from firm to firm, and still couldn’t make the money/benefits that I have with VZ and CWA.
I can't think of a single reason to be part of a Union. Moreover I can think of about a hundred reason NOT to be part of a union. As another person pointed out, unions are only about 10% of the workforce. Clearly the American worker and the American workforce agrees with me as the low 10% of union workers clearly shows. Unions are a thing of the past, it's time to move on.
Front yards - now that is funny
And the Company wants another month of home garaging, guess what, even with my local president telling the garage, “we will not extend it past September”, poof, we are now October 31... lol... can we just get the agreement till the end of the contract, or at least till the virus is defeated ?thank you in advance company.
Best,
Outside Field Techs
@5bzu DITTO THAT
The union will fight anything that allows more freedoms for the employees and makes the employer look good in the eyes of the employees...... Not matter what it is they will fight it. It's about Us V Them, so childish but so true. No WONDER unions only have about 10 or so % of employees willing to join. The fall of unions is a sight to see. I can not understand why anyone would want to be part of a union these days. There is nothing a union can offer employees this day in age that I can't get out of the actual employer during the hiring process. Take me for example. Verizon offered me XYZ $ for the job. I countered that offer. Two weeks later I got my letter of hire with the value I feel I was worth. I guess union members are too lazy and or stupid to have a conversation with the employer about the pay they want and leave it up to a union. These types of union employees are really stupid, they sell themselves short by not standing up for their own interest, not the unions interest!
Back in the garage for what? Tailgate Meetings that our branch and even whole unit doesn’t have? Instead, you sit around in the crew room and listen to everyone complain about their work line-up or lame stories from the previous days work.
Mobile is home forever? Sure doesn’t sound it over on the VZ Wireless page.
Lots of whining and crying over there!
CWA wants you back in office, while mobile is home forever. How about that. Freedom sure is sweet!
Verizon should do everything in its power to squash the Union? Like what? Extend the contract again?
LOL
Not so fast Zippy
At least the retired person is not here posting on company time! Verizon should dock the pay of anyone posting on company time and fire anyone using a company asset. I see these posting are during business hours! As for me, I worked at Verizon for 6 years so I have skin in the game considering I also own lots of VZ stock and have a 401K still with the company that I have not rolled over. Verizon should do everything in its power to squash the union that is driving the company into the ground.
Robert Johnson: “ I mean, few of us don't have time to even bother posting here, clearly you have lots of time on your hands as you clearly don't have a job.”
Uhh, but YOU have time to post on here? LOL
: @4mub+176DHmwj: Retired at 53 and you sit at home posting on a site that has nothing to do with you. Yeah, sure. Fun retirement, LOL
Work from home extended to 1/31
Home gararge extended for those who live in the same state only.
Anarchist jurisdiction=essential pay
OMG this person is a real piece of work. Suxs to be you mate! See ya, would not want to be ya!
or, conversely, my contract guarantees me time off to rest my achy, tuckered-from-hard-work-and-harsh-weather weary, bones?
Start the downvotes now, puny critic.
Let's see here. I worked for 21 years in tech, hold 2 patents and retired at 53. Never needed a union and I have plenty of money to last me a life time and my family too. No "contract" needed. Considering unions only make up about 10% of the workforce these days, 90% workers get along just fine. I know I did with a two year community college degree to boot. If I worked for a union I would not be retired at 53 living the way I want to live. Meanwhile that union paid to post jeerk has a "contract" Well GOOD for you loser!
or, conversely, my contract guarantees me time off to rest my achy, tuckered-from-hard-work-and-harsh-weather weary, bones?
Start the downvotes now, puny critic.