Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Phoenix Engines Moving Gear production to Chihuahua

Transition starts right away, target completion by Dec 2021. Thoughts/comments?

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Post ID: @OP+17Uh4icR

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Another ASU gone.

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Post ID: @bwnp+17Uh4icR

7kqh+

Is the "barn" the 403 building? Was originally called the babbs building because the person that Airesearch bought it from last name was Babbs. Do they still keep bar stock there? gear line uses bar stock to produce some gears.

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Post ID: @8eef+17Uh4icR

Dev shop has been moved to "The Barn", the building just north of heat treat. That may be a good place to hang out for the next few years....with all of the rework coming.

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Post ID: @7kqh+17Uh4icR

@5oes

Does Phoenix still have Dev Shop? Thought that went a few years ago.

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Post ID: @7you+17Uh4icR

Our aero site moved all circuit board assembly and test to Mexicali.
All of the boards failed test but were still shipped to us.
Our techs retested and repaired every board.
Still netted a 60% savings.
Crazy but effective way of doing business.

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Post ID: @5nyt+17Uh4icR

Hey speaking of sc-ap/rework. For probably the first 3-4 years that the Chihuahua plant tried to make long shafted turbine wheels used in 2 bearing APU all of them that were received in Phoenix had to be reworked in the Dev shop. But hey we got them cheap LOL HCMO machinists were being paid $1.85 per hour back then.

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Post ID: @5oes+17Uh4icR

I seem to recall a transition of disk mfg to Chihuahua a few years back. Parts had to be routed back to Engines facility for inspection and rework. If my memory serves me right, it was a boondoggle of immense proportions. But hey, the initial labor was cheaper.

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Post ID: @5dhf+17Uh4icR

So is the tube line remaining in 103 or being moved to north of the tracks?

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Post ID: @4iau+17Uh4icR

So, would this be Spacely Sprockets, or Cogswell Cogs???

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Post ID: @4gak+17Uh4icR

Knew this was coming when request for updated lunch room was denied in 2019. Buckets to catch rain water in engineering, restrooms falling apart, etc. So long Building 103, and all the great folks at the Gear Line.

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Post ID: @3kds+17Uh4icR

Silly metal widget makers. Honeywell is a software company.
Didnt you get the idea when they let the roof collapse at your site?
Also,
Coincidence that this comes weeks after ge demonstrates a new engine for chinook?
T55 is old and honeywell misses delivers too often.
This isnt about gears.
It is about the whole product line moving on to the "dominated by foreign sales" phase.

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Post ID: @3ccr+17Uh4icR

Leadership would love to sell Aero, especially after we have been through an upswing for Aero shipments last 5 years or so (pre-2020). Aero is cyclical and they know likely shipments will be in a trough for the next few years. They would much rather have the cash. Maybe a sale to some other financial holding company before any disasters. They just want the numbers to look as good as possible.

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Post ID: @2ing+17Uh4icR

Thats what you get for trusting and working for a corporation like Honeyhell! Make sure you squeeze every last cent and drop of money from them before you quit without notice. Make sure you quit after the annual retirement match in December. Exhaust all benefits and perform the lowest standard of work necessary to maintain employment during this process.

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Post ID: @2ufn+17Uh4icR

Wow!!! Honeywell is heading towards their own 737 MAX. Let history show that their employees tried to stop them.

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Post ID: @2bwl+17Uh4icR

The MTBF on T55 will half!!!! Bevel Gear finishing and plating on high speed gears takes years to learn. Honeywells management needs to be personally responsible when...not if...this disaster occurs.....not just fines but criminal liability.

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Post ID: @2vgc+17Uh4icR

Anything to increase profit margins, implement $1 cost savings. When is the tilting point? It's like being in a laundry dryer with non-stop toxic chaos. I am glad to be out of it and really sympathize with the ones still working for HW. Unless you're in very high leadership positions comfortable with daily useless meetings, complete with high-fives, yes sir, great job! completely oblivious and indifferent to what's happening in the ranks.

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Post ID: @2zrz+17Uh4icR

As posted, a lot of the "gears" have a lot more than a gear as part of the product. I wonder if anyone checked to see if HCMO has the right equipment. Important stuff was scheduled for transfer to Czech and those poor guys didn't have the necessary EB welder. Lots more examples like that.

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Post ID: @2xju+17Uh4icR

"You could set up bleachers and sell popcorn."

  • I did a spit-take with my coffee AND snorted !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW5_ZUFaKEw&ab_channel=HuffPostEntertainment

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Post ID: @1nvo+17Uh4icR

They will try u.s goods returning thinking sleepy will change trumps import tax

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Post ID: @1pxc+17Uh4icR

Well, the folks running the show now are all money men. They couldn't put something from Ikea together. Those dummies read too many management "guru" books, and don't even know what a gear actually is. This is today's reality. But, you can really thank the US Congress for enabling all this outsourcing. My opinion only, of course.

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Post ID: @1luz+17Uh4icR

It'll be worth the price of admission watching HCMO try to make double carburized gears with integral 6 finish journals for the roller bearings. You could set up bleachers and sell popcorn. I designed and tested several different gearboxes back in the '80s and worked pretty closely with the gear shop – they're as good as it gets, and it's no accident that we didn't go outside for many of our gears for over 50 years.

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Post ID: @1uhr+17Uh4icR

The US Government should be concerned....arn't T55 Engine Gears Finished and Heat Treated there....shout to your Congressman, Senators, and the local media!! You can do this online....if you all do it...it will make a difference to you and America....time to stop giving in!

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Post ID: @ovl+17Uh4icR

Management: ‘Gears are small easy parts’ .... lol!!

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Post ID: @xbk+17Uh4icR

I work in the gear shop. They told us about it yesterday. GOOD FU----G LUCK teaching the Mexico guys how to do some of the sh-t we do with old antiquated equipment. Some of the processes we do are like a black art and you can’t just teach it (at least not right away). They will suffer over this!

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Post ID: @vqb+17Uh4icR

Saw that email today....the question of why they chose HCMO is BS. "Better serve our customers" yeah right! Be honest....the labor is waaaaaay cheaper.

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Post ID: @anb+17Uh4icR

Export license will be interesting for some parts. Does HCMO have current ability to make them? Probably not. Some licenses will come back, as they have in the past, with prohibitions of technology transfer. And, some of those parts are really, really hard to make.

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Post ID: @llm+17Uh4icR

Another disaster in the making. Doesn't matter though, honeywell won't be building anything within 3 years time

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