1700 employees off of all functions. Circulating breakdown per function..
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In Europe there are different ways of letting people go: the "normal" way (redundancy, with severance decided within a legal framework), performance based (with PIP nowadays-same result as "normal"), "stante pede" (you did something terribly wrong = immediate termination without further pay).
But given the huge number of lay offs involved in Brussels HQ (number of lay offs vs number of regular employees), the process is called collective dismissal ('collectief ontslag' in Dutch) where special laws and rules apply. In such case the severage package can never be less than what is agreed for the whole petroleum sector in Belgium in a Collective Labour Agreement (CLA).
Some (mostly US) people call unions "socialism", am willing to bet that those people now would be happy to have those unions fight for every single employee!
Question from a non-US EM employee: what are wage employees (definition)? Cannot find anything meaningful using internet translation tools. Thanks in advance!
XOM has a large german upstream affiliate. XOM will sell out of UK upstream soon. That will leave a large downstream/Chemical presence in UK, Belgium, France, Italy and germany. Upstream will shrink in Neth and Germ. German employees are very high cost due to regs/pension and the gas production is declining rapidly.
Here is the numbers from the power point...
Function: those to be laid off / Headcount as of June 2020
Fuels: 327 / 1224
Lubes: 236 / 852
EMRE: 74 / 255
Chemicals: 337 / 3180
Upstream: 177 / 795
Global Projects: 138 / 250
EMIT: 169 / 232
Staff Functions: 238 / 2300
Total: 1696 / 9088
At this point, any publicity is bad publicity.. Just know that EMIT and Global Projects are getting screwed in high cost locations.
P&GA are following this site and having them take down things like the document at the link. Darn glad I got a screen shot before they managed that!
The link is dead, can anyone please repost
Gas processing plants are still considered upstream.
Germany actually does have oil and gas production. Not a lot, but it's there. Industry is limited to 5 or 6 players, XOM partners with Shell for some, and has other properties Shell doesn't participate in.
@qca+17jLfMHZ - well, the range is quite wide (1334-1596 of 9088 employees = 14.7-18.7%).
The 2 figures that blow my mind are: (i) 2300 employees in "staff functions" (admin and management), and (ii) Upstream has 795 employees in Europe, 588 of whom are based in Germany !
Seriously - why are nearly 600 Upstream employees in Germany ? Germany doesn't have any oilfields and is has a seriously anti-fossil fuel government !
And thanks to the OP ...
"Don't care if you actually did anything, but care if you can summarize bs and make it pretty"
this statement is sooooo true!!! as long as there is some truth in it, you can make up the rest. Its like based on a true story movie but the movie itself is not a true story!! so u make up the parts that are not nice and make it pretty and nice to look at on a chart somewhere, somehow. NO one actual fact check things... hmmm wonder where i heard that before.
Too many management layers in this company. Don't worry though! Per the forum yesterday with the refining director, HW3 is supposed to be removing many layers of middle management and increasing spans on control.
Per recently revealed cuts in Europe, almost all functions are likely to be significantly gutted. I'd expect very high % of EMIT to no longer be around in North America.
@1boe+17jLfMHZ I agree. It's not only EMIT that has a million "managers", "leads", and "advisors."
Also, the value attributed in this company to a decent PowerPoint deck is absurd. I dont understand it. Most managers don't even care if the information is true, just as long as it's summarized in a well organized PowerPoint deck. Don't care if you actually did anything, but care if you can summarize bs and make it pretty.
EMIT are probably just as inefficient as everyone else. Can you honestly say that the department you work in is shooting the lights out? Sometimes you have to take it on the chin and realise we aren’t the best. Everyone seems to believe in their own hype. Just a badly run company with over inflated egos across the board. Would we be in this situation if we were as good as we think we are? Most of the company are well paid PowerPoint professionals that push paper around day after day and listen to hours and hours of pointless conference calls. We are only kidding ourselves.
They will probably have to pay severance in Europe. It won’t be as easy to conceal the layoff.
Are European countries allowed to remove employees with PIP? I Thought the point of the rushed announcement/plan with regard to this area of the world was because the company cannot sever employment in such a heavy handed manner due to strict labor laws.
lets not forget the most valuable resources EMIT has.... the SDMs.
The 1600 reductions are thru year-end 2021, so this includes the next round of PIP for the exempt (MPT) employees. If you were NI in June of this year, you will be gone next year.
Seems EMIT got what they deserve. Look at the org chart and see just how many advisors, architects (dozens of different kinds), leads, managers, supervisors, program managers, project managers , coordinators, product owners, scrum masters, they have. Virtually nobody actually doing any work, unless you consider creating websites about how productive and innovative they are is value added work. Most of them are doing business with themselves. 73% cuts for EMIT would be too low. And start at the top.
EMIT reduction not in low cost European countries are 73%
JFC, I hope some of these people who post are not XOM, otherwise it's obvious why we are where we are. But we know they are not. No one says "dad gum". Troll farm in Russia. We should post a comment about how well the Brooklyn Dodgers are doing to weed them out (shout out the anyone who gets that reference).
Thank you to the person who mentioned that those numbers don't include the Czech Republic and Hungary since they have a huge EMIT population.
So again to all those mo–ns out there, the EMIT reduction is NOT 73%.
dad gum.
i had my money on the Upstream percentage-wise.
But it's EMIT.
Let us now watch the capital sell-offs of facilities and 'fields'.
No presence at all in Europa in 2025.
REACH out.
#NLRA National Labor Relations Act
What is the last line in the screenshot? "Staff functions"
Does it include controllers?
That is only Germany, UK, Italy, France, Belgium and Netherlands
Google search Indicates 14,000 employees in Europe vs 9000 included there.
Pretty sure these numbers exclude wage employees. Total employees in the 7 European refineries is around 4,000.
Dam, EMIT number does not bode well for the US.
A little confused with the EMIT total numbers. 232? I know we have a lot in BP and Prague. Unless they are under Staff Functions? Or embedded in the business lines they support?
Refining director says studies still in progress. Don't know.
% reduction by function:
Fuels: 27%
Lubes: 28%
EMRE: 29%
Chemical: 11%
Upstream: 22%
Global Projects: 55%
EMIT: 73%
If wage employees are included in the fuels/lubes, that's like 50% of the office being let go.
They’re letting go of ~20%, wow. And the next ranking cycle isn’t too far off either 💀
Curious if breakdown is same for other countries...
You da man OP.
Left column for europa is number employees as of June 2020 (Deutschland = Germany). Right column is number of redundancies. Equals out to the ~1600 employees being let go in Europe.
What does that mean? Sorry don't read German. Is the column on the left the number of redundancies or is the column on the right the number of redundancies? The numbers are different
See link for breakdown
https://ibb.co/gRr2RNc