Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

And you sound naive.

Positions are being eliminated, and not refilled.

I've been impacted TWICE by "limited restructuring". In BOTH cases, while working in a new role at Cisco, some contractor on my old team doing my old job would realize that I'm still at Cisco and contact me with questions about the documentation I'd left behind. In once case, IT reached out to me because I was still listed as the application POC for a host that needed to be refreshed. When I gave IT the manager's name to check with because I was no longer part of that team, so contractor reaches out to me from the team to ask who used to use that application and if they still needed it!

I wouldn't have minded being LR'd IF I'd been redundant. But I was always in a role where I was the ONE guy who supported my function and I was always called while on PTO to deal with issues. Given that the apps/services didn't go away for more than a year, if at all, after I was LR'd, I clearly wasn't redundant. Just old and over-paid seeing as I was replaced with a EIC contractor.

Did your manager happen to say “trust me” or “I will take care of you” during your discussions?

Life lesson: If your manager uses the phrases don’t count on it happening. Not that the manager is lying, just that managers who say these things don’t realize they have little to no control of the situation

You sound young. I'll try to explain the logic hear.

Some people are let go due to sub-par performance. But LR stands for Limited Restructuring.

Most people are let go through no fault of their own. The idea behind the LR is that upper management is aligning job roles to the business strategy*. Positions are being eliminated, and not refilled. So if the company is getting out of a business area, or decreasing its focus on an area, or if it thinks the job can be done with less people, then those roles are LR'ed. Other reasons for LR - if the position is moved to a a low-cost country, or if they think the product is selling itself (for sales positions, even when sales targets are met).

In your case it sounds like upper management has decided that your role is not going to be important enough to the company going forward to justify the cost. You were probably told that you can look for a different position within Cisco, which you can. And being on the LR will not be held against you. So take a look at the external job market, and also work your network within CIsco if you would reconsider staying.

• This is the theory. The competence of the ELT, and senior levels is a different matter. When interns are eliminated, or people in roles for a year or so - it just shows that they are reacting, and not planning ahead at all. Paying someone 1/2 a year salary to leave when they've been with the company for a year is just laughable.

You were a fool to believe your manager had any power to begin with

Which BU or role?

think simply ...don't bring color or ethnic-ty here. just you're not the best with comparing how much Cisco pays for you or not team player must be needed.
don't blame your parent how you look like and blame yourself how you did.

The 1st line manger has little Control over lay-off decisions, neither he can promise you a promotion. The quicker you leave the company, the better you’ll feel. Don’t linger on what he said. Embrace a better future.

Nice try, but minorities are NOT protected. Legal is not on board with Fran, and Cisco doesn't lose EEOC cases. The company is a big'ted as ever. Look for another scapegoat.

Thing this one was more for structure and monetary/salary based. They can get rid of one expensive older person to save three younger newbies. Simple math or getting ready for a combination restructure.

To Op, where you working on a critical project.
In past layoffs in the BU I was in, people not attached to critical projects were usually the ones let go.

Minorities will be protected is what ethnicity means. Otherwise could be a lawsuit if too high.

whoever posted "Ethnic!ty is a primary driver of the LR algorithm.' PLEASE unpack that a bit for me.

are you saying that groups other than caucasian are targeted, or that they are relatively safe?

It is based on a number they had to hit across the all teams. Everyone is then stacked ranked and the guys at the bottom of the stack compared to your peers is given the shaft. With that said you should consider your self amazing still because the reason is not that you didn’t preform but that your leadership was unable to lead.

When both SJC and Sydney Tac are both k–led it not about preforming, it about the leadership inability to plan right.

I am sorry my friend but it is not you

Dust off, prep the resume, hold your head high, and know you may have a blessing to get off the ship that is slow sinking like the titanic

Horrible!! That's just so typical of Cisco! Get out of there!! Take your talents elsewhere!

Ethnic!ty is a primary driver of the LR algorithm.