Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I don't get it

98% percent of people who work at Cisco think it's a great place to work. How? Who exactly are they surveying for these things? ELT, and only ELT? Even if you enjoy what you do immensely, the lack of job security itself should be enough to at least push it down to a medium category.

Somebody enlighten me, please.

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Post ID: @OP+17ksVGyR

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All depends on what BU you are in.

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Post ID: @2wdh+17ksVGyR

20+ years later, I still love Cisco. Maybe it's perspective and aligned expectations, but we're paid well, I've only seen honest business practices, and the customer is always a partner. Could be BU specific of course, but the goals are common and clear where I sit. LRs s—, but it's not like this is a normal year.

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Post ID: @1atg+17ksVGyR

yeah cuz Dave ward was doing such a great job

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Post ID: @1pza+17ksVGyR

Replying to @ldl+17ksVGyR.

The biggest error the last year was to let Dave Ward go. If you want an engineer with great insights in both hardware, software , marketing and sales one should bring him back to run the company.

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Post ID: @1bmu+17ksVGyR

It's pretty laid back.

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Post ID: @1uab+17ksVGyR

That 98% doesn't mean what you think it means. What Cisco does is survey a target group of employees. That 98% doesn't reflect 98% of the company but instead 98% of the target size of the group who got the survey.

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Post ID: @bgz+17ksVGyR

Job security???what is that?

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Post ID: @kur+17ksVGyR

They pay for those ratings. That's how Cisco rates as high as it does.

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Post ID: @uwf+17ksVGyR

I have some opinions why that is the case. First interns work here and get a return offer for another internship, then get a return offer to join full time. Therefore, some young people don't know what it is like to work at another company. I also see professionals that come here from companies that I have never heard of, but coming to Cisco a well established name brand with resources, health insurance, PTO obviously it is going to be great then before. Its like coming from a 3rd world country to the US. Cisco is an advocate for social justice, so that means that the youth are going to love it because they recently came from college which talks about that all 4 years of undergrad. Lastly, recent post about working at Amazon, Facebook. It is true that you might be working at an innovative company or treat you like c-ap, but once you get paid high dollar, it is very hard to take a paycut. That is why you don't see Amazon to Cisco, but rather Cisco to Amazon very often. You only need to work at FANG for a couple of years to be well of financially or have ESSP vested, before they cash out for a more work life balance at another company.

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Post ID: @ghv+17ksVGyR

Coming from a software point of view, It's all dependent on what BU you are in. My main beef is that it is basically somewhat proprietary software mixed in with open source tools. For a college grad that has been here for 2 years now, I must say that this place is pretty bad for software. When I arrived here, most of the time you will be fixing code, static analysis, or implement a small feature there and there, so basically you are in the software maintenance of the software cycle. Unlike Apple for example where there is a new product very often with the latest software. When Cisco acquires a business, WOKE culture here thinks it great (sales, PM, CX) with exceptions like DUO, because they don't know any better, but in reality its legacy code coming to Cisco with some new implementations there and there. Therefore, innovation is stagnant. If Cisco is innovative then it would be driving the industry not following it. I repeat not all BUs are like this.

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Post ID: @fae+17ksVGyR

You need to work at other companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook or Apple to know what it means to work at Cisco. I left Cisco voluntarily and joined one of the above mentioned companies for the job security and higher pay. Boy, was I stupid and Immature! You sure do get a lot more money in these companies but the type of work is so diluted that it is almost terrible. Also, depending on the manger and the team, the culture in these companies encourages managers to do "what it takes to get the job done" which usually means treat you like dogshit. If I have to go back and work for Cisco, I would do it any day. But, I would be careful about working in remote locations and always have an eye on the how my org is performing from a business point of view.

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Post ID: @ibb+17ksVGyR

Cisco is a great place to work because it is a family at the individual contributor level. It has little to do with the top 1 percent that is destroying the company (Chuck). The people truly do care for the customer, counter part and partners. Everyone at that level is in it for technology and the desire to be the very best.

At some point the balance of the love for technology at the 1 percent got lost (Chuck). Uncle John had a balance and even he started to loose his touch at some point.

Once the loss to have love for technology is gone... you become more like the Bank of Cisco (Cisco Capital) instead of the love of telecommunications, networking and architecture.

We need a new leadership that is a Engineer first who is also an amazing sales person to. We need to follow Google and MSFT now... time is about to run out on the game clock.

Tic toc tic toc tic toc

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Post ID: @ldl+17ksVGyR

As someone who left Cisco voluntarily, they treat employees very well compared to many other enterprises.

Yes, the layoff s—s. Yes, upper management makes dumb decisions and people suffer for it, but they still treat you pretty well while you're there and even on your way out (considering the packages).

I hated the annual hunger games and stress from layoffs, but I definitely appreciate how good it was to work there after leaving. I'd probably even return if I had the chance.

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Post ID: @dcd+17ksVGyR

75% of Uber Drivers don't want health insurance. It's easy to manipulate an incompetent workforce with surveys.

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Post ID: @gmr+17ksVGyR

In America, unless you're unionized, a teacher with tenure, and so on. You have no guarantee of job security anywhere. Become self-employed if you want to steer that ship.

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