Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Lunch with a Cisco Employee

A little over a year ago I was interviewing for a position at Cisco. I had been through about 8 interviews for the position. I was told by the hiring manager that she would be contacting me with HR in the next 2 days with an offer. 2-weeks later I had not heard so I called the hiring manager. She said everything was still good but "something" had come up and the offer would be in about another week or so. In that time, Cisco had a layoff locally. 2 days after that, I was called with an offer but it had to be a contractor position because of the layoff. I was told by the hiring manager and HR person that I would be converted to FT by the end of the year.

Fast forward to now, I had lunch with a guy that moved into that group. They had MASSIVE layoffs a few months ago. He even told me the manager I interviewed with were all gone. He said I made the best decision to take my current job over the one I would have had. I would have never been converted and never would have lasted 6 months. He said all people are miserable working there and none of them even care. They are all looking for jobs else where but staying for a paycheck only. He said he only works about 20 hours a week because it is not worth even trying to do more.

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I know a guy who has 2 full time jogs. One is Cisco. Making 250k a year right now.

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Post ID: @aviu+18L72vT8

Kudos to all the folks who do zero work and still get paid as folks who put in 60 hrs/week. I work maybe 25hrs/week. How do you get away with zero? Is your mgr that incompetent ?

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Post ID: @4zrs+18L72vT8
Me and 3 of my team mates just hang around Starbucks while we sip their expensive mochas, all billed to the corporate CC issued to us.

There was a story in the news recently about someone at Cisco caught committing fraud using their corporate CC card. I'd be careful posting about committing fraud.

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Post ID: @4hjo+18L72vT8

Post from TheLayoff.com

I am here to admit that I don't do a whole lot.

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Post ID: @4flv+18L72vT8

Me and 3 of my team mates just hang around Starbucks while we sip their expensive mochas, all billed to the corporate CC issued to us. Office phone calls are forwarded to our mobile phones and we check emails on the same phones. No need even to open laptops. Thank you Cisco. A friend of mine who works at Google was jealousy about the easy work we do, now he wants to join the Cisco gravy train. hahahaha, high 5!!

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Post ID: @3ucn+18L72vT8

When I worked in RTP, there was an entire team on the other side of the floor that did nothing but play video games all day. Literally every single time we would walk by they were on COD or Minecraft and such. They dressed like teenage skateboarders, walked around bothering people who were actually working, and I never once saw their supervisor in the building. Meanwhile I worked 12 hour days 6 days a week covering global teams and got let go. Cisco has no idea of the internal waste.

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Post ID: @3dav+18L72vT8

Utter bollocks. Cisco is pressing everyone very hard for more work.

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Post ID: @3dgu+18L72vT8
I have done 0 work for the past 6 months other than to open my email and just select a bunch of emails and click on "Mark as Read". Cisco is a cash cow, just milk it and enjoy.

And it's f—ers like you that need to be LR'd to bring Cisco back to it's glory days. That and leadership who encourages innovation and R&D instead of buying innovation and k–ling it once it's "merged" into Cisco.

Contingent workers are either low-level workers who copy/paste code from the Internet, do level one support/grunt work, or are SME's who work their asses off while Cisco employees slack off and do no work. I know some hard working employees, but it k–ls me to read comments like this that shows how many people just draw a paycheck.

I was at a financial company prior to Cisco. They were growing their workforce greater than their building capacity, and instead of building/leasing additional buildings, they were allowing employees to work remotely while requiring contingent workers to work from the office. They even forced contingent workers to take the days prior to and after banking holidays "because their manager might be on PTO and unable to supervise them and ensure that they actually work those days." But how do said managers supervise them if they're working from home? And, it turned out that many employees didn't bother to ever sign in via VPN and were only checking / responding to emails from their smartphone/tablet and not doing any work. They finally fired a bunch of employees and converted the contractors to employee because they were the only ones doing any real work.

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Post ID: @2qmq+18L72vT8

I have done 0 work for the past 6 months other than to open my email and just select a bunch of emails and click on "Mark as Read". Cisco is a cash cow, just milk it and enjoy.

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Post ID: @2sqi+18L72vT8

How things change.

The day I started 21+ years it was the first day (RTP) where they processed 100 NEW blue badges in ONE day. They had a whole cafeteria set up to process everyone in mass by going table-to-table.

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Post ID: @2jfl+18L72vT8

Your skills atrophy if you are at Cisco too long. Recruiters are well aware of this.

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Post ID: @2bcr+18L72vT8

Working at Cisco is a good passive income stream . No point in working hard. Too cut throat.

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Post ID: @2cqf+18L72vT8

Sad part of that is that it was most likely beyond that manager's control. There was a time where a lot of the hiring was from red badge conversions (try before you buy), then that started to be discouraged for a few reasons - co-employment legal risks and college recruits leaving because of no path for growth (we spend a LOT of money on campus recruiting).

Most of our managers are just Individual Contributors who happen to have direct reports. They have their own tasks to do and are also busy networking to get their next opportunity. One of the reasons for implementing Team Space was that employees would go for months without ever hearing from or meeting with their manager. And all too often they'd have 2-4 different managers in a year. Total disconnect. Total wonder that any work actually gets done.

HR is already effectively outsourced. Most of the processing is done with vendor apps (ADP, etc.) and most of the team members are red badge. However Fran does have quite a lot of VPs with no direct reports in her org structure. I suspect that its like banking, you have to be a company officer to sign certain documents. All the countries we have employees in they probably have a VP or this one and a VP of that one, otherwise just an IC.

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Post ID: @1phc+18L72vT8

McDonald's is hiring.

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Post ID: @1qfy+18L72vT8

No truer words were ever spoken!!! I hate, hate Cisco!!!

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Post ID: @1ffs+18L72vT8

I work only 4hrs/week. Rest of the time is spent on day-trading stocks, watching sports, working out in my home gym, fixing my house, tutoring my kids. Just makeup some fake webex meetings and stay on for hours. Pssssssss, don't tell any VPs or higher-ups.

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Post ID: @1qtb+18L72vT8

HR will be outsourced during '21...payback is a b–ch

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Post ID: @1iwt+18L72vT8

Most Cisco employees work part-time and many have side jobs
Managers don't care so they get away with it

Only a slacker like you can say that for other Cisco employees.

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Post ID: @ybk+18L72vT8

Dangling the full-time conversion is typical Cisco. It's not easy watching a single mother be lied to about employment conversion... although you can't have ethics if you want to climb the ladder at Cisco.

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Post ID: @yjx+18L72vT8

Most Cisco employees work part-time and many have side jobs
Managers don't care so they get away with it

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