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Class Action

There has to be someone willing to file a class action lawsuit against the BS in benefit changes for the "mature" crowd. If for no other reason than to get this out in front of the news and media - Such BS!

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Post ID: @OP+18ROW0jL

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Reply-to: @4nnl+18ROW0jL

  • You get a retirement package that the younger ones don't get at all.

The pension program was there when we were hired and it's also being gutted.

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Post ID: @4kxs+18ROW0jL

You get a retirement package that the younger ones don't get at all.

I don't think you're going to be able to make a case that you are more disadvantaged.

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Post ID: @4nnl+18ROW0jL

Age discrimintation, maybe?

Unlike other, failed, class actions based on inherently unfair acts, singling out those who meet the AGE and service requirements to meet the Modified Rule of 75 is a very thinly-veiled way to discriminate based on age, which is an explicitly-protected class under Federal law.

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. However, I did get > $10K from a class action lawsuit related to unpaid overtime from an earlier version of this place about 15 years ago, so they CAN work, if you are in a strongly-protected class.

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Post ID: @3gdz+18ROW0jL

Inconsistent-ratings-raise-discrimination-questions-in-reduction-in-force - a case won in December 2020 by an AT&T employee who had higher ratings than others but go surplused and was told ratings was in the criteria used

https://www.law.com/thelegalintelligencer/2021/01/12/inconsistent-ratings-raise-discrimination-questions-in-reduction-in-force/?slreturn=20210012225653

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Post ID: @2zui+18ROW0jL

Been there / done that. Didn't help. I was part of a class action suit years ago when I first came over to AT&T. My [> 2000 person] group was purchased by AT&T and there were issues with how we were treated by the takeover. Someone filed a class action suit to overturn the rules that everyone believed were unfair and illegal. It went on for years and years and years and eventually was dropped. Deep pocketed T will make any lawsuit not worth it for the attorneys. They can afford the legal fees to drag it on so long that we've all died or the lawyers recognize their payday is so far off, they'll walk away.

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Post ID: @1ouu+18ROW0jL

The email that went out regarding this was targeted to only certain employees (translation: those qualifying for pre medicare medical benefits = older employees). The email started like this:

To: Select AT&T management employees
(This is a targeted message — please do not forward)

Seems like clear age discrimination to me....otherwise they should've sent the email to everyone!!!!

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Post ID: @1ofu+18ROW0jL

"Call CNN and see if they will do a report on this."

Do you realize that CNN is owned by AT&T?!

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Post ID: @1yqm+18ROW0jL

Not sure why the OP expects someone else to file. Step up OP and file yourself.

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Post ID: @1dbh+18ROW0jL

In order to file a lawsuit, a law has to have been violated. Was there a law that was broken when benefits were changed? A lawyer can't and won't help you at all if not.

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Post ID: @1oln+18ROW0jL

Call CNN and see if they will do a report on this.

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Post ID: @1mbv+18ROW0jL

Lawyers do scare big corporations...don’t be fooled by the army of lawyers ATT has on board....they will get their under roos handed to them by a top law firm. Microsoft got blasted by Engineers suing on a class action so i doubt ATT has become a Teflon Don of sorts. Cmon this the company that got underpantsed by TMobile for what - 5 billion ? Stay strong storm troopers !

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Post ID: @1zfc+18ROW0jL

So you are still oblivious to the reason behind all the changes? They want you off the Fing payroll. How much punishment are you willing to endure while complaining, before you get the hint and leave?

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Post ID: @1rfp+18ROW0jL

By the way, I should also point out that the younger crowd gets screwed over on a very consistent basis. HR gave me a random pay bump out of the blue. I didn't know why they did it until March rolled around. Turns out it was cheaper for them to raise my salary midyear and bump me slightly past the bare minimum on the salary chart. Had they not done that, I would have gotten a much larger percentage.

I also had HR screw me over on the HSA match because at some point they decided to switch from an annual match to a quarterly match without telling anyone. I had an issue with the January paycheck, and a couple dollars caused the match to not go through. No emails, nobody reaching out to me, nothing. Their system just sh– itself. I realized it a few months later when I noticed I didn't see the spike on my fidelity chart. Reached out to HR, only to be told that:

  1. It was essentially my fault for not noticing their mistake.
  2. I should read their ambiguous "fine print".

They then refused to match a mere $150. It's so petty.

Did you know people who intern at AT&T get $5,000-$10,000 less starting salary than those who join the company without interning?

Yes, AT&T takes greeeeat care of their younglings. ;)

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Post ID: @may+18ROW0jL

Heh, "mature" crowd. You mean the people who have pension and earn $50,000 more than their entry level workers? Poor you. Those severely underpaid college students are trying to afford million dollar cookie cutter homes while you're complaining about losing 2 days of vacation.

If you need those days so much, then take VTO. Nothing is stopping you.

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Post ID: @fvb+18ROW0jL

You had the choice whether to go in to a non bargained position.
T will sc(R)ew you 6 ways to Sunday. And laugh at your misery
They care not about you, your family or your job.
Suing them is a study in futility. They'll run you out of $$$.
They haven't cared in 25 yrs. They don't care today.
They never will again.
Why you people still care is beyond me.

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Post ID: @luk+18ROW0jL

As distasteful as the vacation change was, I think they can hide behind it since the change brings younger employees in line with older. IE, they took days away, but we’re all even now, there’s no favoritism to the lower tenured employee.

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Post ID: @nfs+18ROW0jL

You can be damn sure that band of lawyers they own, did the homework for those making the decisions. Just as di the finance organization.

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Post ID: @jqe+18ROW0jL

@gcp
"The law prohibits discrimination in any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, benefits, and any other term or condition of employment. "

Yea right. T gives the easy jobs to minorities and women, the promotions to minorities and women, the pay to minorities and women. WHY? Because this group can generally not handle anything complicated and because WASP Men are NOT PROTECTED under THE LAW.

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Post ID: @gss+18ROW0jL

Several years ago, I spoke with an employment lawyer (about another issue). He said that when an employee sues an employer, often the employer's first response is to fire the employee. For that reason, it is usually best not to sue unless you have been fired or want to leave..

So, be ready for that possibility if you decide to sue.

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Post ID: @bao+18ROW0jL

The Vacation time policy giving more time to newer employees and taking away from tenured is definitely age discrimination - Basically took time away from older employees to give younger employees more time off
https://www.eeoc.gov/age-discrimination

Age Discrimination & Work Situations

The law prohibits discrimination in any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.

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Post ID: @gcp+18ROW0jL

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