I am a part of the involuntary lay-off. Did any of you get the release/waiver agreement reviewed by a lawyer? I asked around and lawyers charge about $400 for the review. Not sure if it’s worth it.
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SMH. People like you are the reason people are leaving this company. Good for you on staying, others will be happier elsewhere.
Also, Exxonmobil isn't even close to one of the top companies by any metrics. Curious why you have so much pride for being apart of the organization. Historically, the company got lucky to make it to the top.
In general, avoid any lawsuits and conflicts. Move on. Think ahead. There are many companies, many jobs, to get one, may take time, but you will get something. Life is short, enjoy life and don't get embroiled in conflict.
Lawyers are all tell tell lies, trying to make you pour money. They benefit, you don't.
And one more thing you may not know - in lawsuits, judgement may be passed against someone, and they never have to pay. In case of ExxonMobil, winning against them is tall order, but say if you file lawsuit against someone, judge can put a judgement against the losing party and you and your attorney may come out high fiving but you may never get paid and the judgement goes away after 10 years.
I know people who won but did not get paid and the cost of their legal fees was $45K. In summary they lost $45K and their time and the stress and anxiety and time in court room.
Divorce, small claims, petty theft by contractors, bad tenants etc. etc., forget and move on. US legal system is a joke - it is great if you are an attorney, it is bad if you are a small man.
Take my advice, have a cold Coors Light and move on.
Good luck!
@1wrc+190mdqsH - you are worthless piece of $hit for mocking people whose lives have been uprooted. Don’t be so sure you won’t be laid off or pipd in the coming rounds. Lot more pain to come.
Lol still hoping to get back in? You had been weighed and deemed unworthy to be part of us!
We are ExxonMobil! Will be greater without you
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/employee-relations/pages/employment-at-will-isnt-a-blank-check-to-terminate-employees-you-dont-like.aspx
Take the money and run. Lawyers cost more than you would recover, even if you somehow were to succeed, and the excuse right now is low oil prices due to pandemic.
You’re crazy if you think suing EM will do anything but drain your pockets and enrich your attorney. Move on and forget about this chapter.
Back in July, I did spend the $400 with a non-specialized atty.
Not in Texas, btw.
He indicated the agreement was worthless and so heavily leveraged for the employer that it amounted to extortion. He found it so abhorrent - he asked several of his partners to look it over and all came back with the same opinion.
However, he said, unless there is a Class Action event against the company, there is no recourse a normal individual could have...
A Class Action in Federal court (and it don't have to be Dallas by any means) should be initiated for the entire "Layoff" activity of the Company during the past year.
Possibly a Congressional inquiry into corporate socialism during this period could interest some good law firms to take it up.
Not likely.
LOL imagine red lining the agreement and handing it back to XOM, i'm sure they'd be receptive.
@fyd+190mdqsH - my ignorance. During the lay-off communication they kept saying 53+ age are not eligible for involuntary lay-off. So I thought there was some legal protection for 53+.
@ean+190mdqsH : Try age 40 for the protected class for age discrimination.
I hope that was an honest mistake and not an HR troll.
Yeah, they say review with an attorney, because it's standard protocol to say these things. It's just another way for them to protect themselves... "We told you to review with an attorney before signing!" as you contemplate suing. And, in any case, your lawsuit will be worthless. Large companies like EM will tie it up in the legal system for years draining all of your cash until nothing is left. Sign it and move on.
I believe 53+ age group is protected. If you are 52, I am not sure if that protection applies.
Realistically, what are you going to do, 52 YO Female?
Say you pony up $400 for a review and the lawyer says, "I don't like this clause".
Now what?
Same question here. During the lay-off communication, my supervisor made a particular mention about this. She said I should get my agreement reviewed by my attorney.
I am a 52 year old female and have 4 years service with the company (experienced hire). Wondering if my age profile indicates I need to look closely at the agreement and get an attorney review it.
Exxon spent way more than $400 crafting that document, and it’s pretty standard stuff anywhere, so no, it’s not worth it. There are companies that have far worse employment contracts in place.