Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Run Forest, RUN!

With new leadership the future is bright. You should stay. Intel's glory days are still ahead.

All you negative nelly's managed to convince me. I'm outta here! (Now let's hope my career doesn't regret it in the future, lol)

Intel is only stable if you are the VP's cousin.

Stability at Intel is only an illusion, and has only been an illusion for the past 6 or so years. Meritocracy went out the window with stability.

Why all the hand-wringing and anxiety? Other companies have layoffs too, and much more frequently than Intel. At least you all have some stability!

Sounds like I need to leave just to keep my skill set up to date! Eeeek! That's scary

The absolute biggest risk of staying is not keeping current with technical skills relevant to the industry.

Churning out Excel sheets and PowerPoint status updates made for your manager to present to his manager because he doesn’t have the slightest f’ing clue what anyone in his team is actually doing is not relevant experience for working elsewhere.

I’m still utterly appalled at how little my last manager cared to know about the technical details of what anyone on his team was doing. He’d only care for about a month after focal when the team reamed him with feedback to get more technical. And a few months later it was back to the same old sh–.

So if you find yourself spending 1/2 your time writing status reports for your manager to send out, you REALLY need to gtfo!

@fyuu thanks for the elaboration. This makes sense and I can attest to some of this as I have experienced it myself. Sounds like unless there is a massive and major culture change in the immediate future, it won't be worth it to build a career in this type of environment. Sounds like it's time to dust off the ol' resume!

@fyre+192Sunvl so many reasons

• incompetence and politics rule at intel, technical skills are secondary or a liability
• intel worships the cult of the BKM with even when it is years out of date
• it is never about solving the problem at intel, only to make sure there is no political fallout for your master-managers
• terrible in-house tools are pushed as an empire building exercise, successful companies like FANG use proven vendor tools so when you interview you do not even speak the same language
• top down management means you never really have a chance to exercise your technical skills, you just do as you are told by non-technical management

list goes on... typical intel engineer does not last 15 minutes in an interview with a competent workplace

@fjh please elaborate on the part about skill set. How does this happen that skills become irrelevant in the market the longer one stays at Intel? I am paying attention and don't want my skills to atrophy. I am indifferent about my team, manager, etc. So if it makes sense career wise to jump ship I am ready!

I jumped ship last year. Best decision ever. More pay. More interesting work. Not even at a FAANG. The management was utter c-ap in my org. Incompetent, technically clueless, hopelessly political. An absolute charnal house of a working environment I dreaded coming into every day. Sadly it wasn’t always this way. But they’ve slowly forced everyone but the politicians out since about 2015.

If you like your management and your team, by all means stay. But keep that LinkedIn and resume polished because unless PG really turns things around you’ll eventually be perp-walked out the door. If you hate it, there’s much better places to go before your skill set is so irrelevant even Burger King won’t hire you 🍟

Been at Intel for several years, fearful of stepping out. I wonder why? Is it because there's safety here or is that just an illusion? Will my work-life balance be c-ap at any other company? Or am I just brainwashed, Stockholm syndrome.

If you are a mid-career or early-career employee, I recommend you leave. Unfortunately, intel has many problems. Most are due to bad managers. I am hopeful that Pat will clean up the house but it will take him years. We have too many sh– managers at Vp and above levels across the board, they have been way over promoted beyond their competence level. They in turn promoted their loyal supporters, friends, a– kissers. It is hard to get to truth, there is so much nonsense, too many id–ts at high levels.

These people may take down Pat or make him unsuccessful. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn’t know where to start. DCG, IOTG, DEG, IASG, IP sundari....we have keyvan to run our manufacturing. Oh boy.
Look at the promo list today. Randhir promoted to SVP, come on. He is sh–e. Why is he even at intel? Bob’s favorites got promos. His chief supply officer what an id–t. Deserves every penny of his 100 million compensations.. Last 6-7 years, year after year, sh–ty people got promoted...

Leave. Don’t waste your time, your life. If you are close to retirement or planning not to work, then you can wait for a lay-off, retirement offer etc.

Soon the decision may be made for you, layoffs could be in the works

I was at intel 10 years and a–holes raja kudori forced my entire team to take separation package.

I was unemployed for 7 months during 2020 but finally landed at a FAANG.

I left Intel at 150K TC and now my TC is 300K.

Lesson I learned, leave Intel and f— you raja!

What is the price of dignity?

If you get a better offer with more pay, it's better to leave

If you are close to retirement, hang in there. 2016 ERP aside, retirement benefits generally aren’t huge but they can cushion you while you look for a “second career” job.

If you like what you do and where you’re at (manager, coworkers, customers), then stay but remember you are always one bad reorg away from misery.

Always build your skills with an eye toward the world outside Intel. Then, you’ll be capable of landing something new if you decide to leave (or Intel decides for you).

If you are miserable, see if you can find an internal transfer that works.

Then there are the ones who are miserable, have no internal transfer options, and no skills that are useful outside Intel. Do NOT let that be you.

Wait and see if PG can right the ship

If you actually have a choice to leave, then congrats- Get the heck out because you don't want to wait until you get kicked out. There are no choices for you then.

nah, intel is way worse. only lifers with no talent and cannot leave use that as an excuse.

This gal isn’t saying stay at Intel because the politics are better or worse there than elsewhere.

Just that Intel isn’t the only place with politics and that even the supposedly best places to work have the same BS.

Don't listen to this guy. Intel politics is infamous. It is ingrained into the very culture in such a way that it is inescapable across the entire company. Very few work environments have this level of systemic toxicity. It is far better to take a chance elsewhere than stick with this cesspool company.

For folks calling out how bad the politics are at Intel... politics are everywhere, sadly.

I’m one of those who just wants to work hard and deliver amazing results, not spend my time figuring out which butts to kiss. I was laid off from Intel in 2019 and moved to the then-#12 best place to work according to Glassdoor (it has slipped a few notches). Supposedly a fabulous company where you work hard, deliver amazing results and get rewarded.

Well... politics there, too. I even tried playing the game for a bit - tried hitching my wagon to someone else’s star - and got big time screwed. I was in one of their acquired BUs & the BU hadn’t adopted the storied culture of the mother company, so that might be part of it, but talking to colleagues across the whole company, politics politics politics. Barf.

I’m at a startup now. Employee #10, and I’m the boss. Not sure how, yet, but I’m going to make it a no politics culture, cuz screw that c-ap.

It is all political. When you move, you temporarily boost the petty empire of some sinecure dweller simply by size. Subsequently, unless you build political capital, your presence is meaningless regardless of your technical contributions.

Here is the problem. You are not rewarded for doing what your good at. They reward you for moving. People usually are not proficient at a role until they have been their 3-4 years to see absolutely everything that can happen.

I had a role in manufacturing and I was better than all my peers in my team. But the time they make you wait to earn a promo and how it is not even based on your own manager (directors sometimes control the promos to reward the teams or people they want).

After my manager had tried to promote me I decided to move to support a BU vs the fab. My job was less stressful, less impactful ....but I received a promo that year.

This is what I don’t understand....why not reward someone for doing what I am extremely good at and pay one for the additional stress?

Why not reward people where they can help the company the most?

Well if you're stuck in the same grade level like me for years with no interest from managers in promoting you, it may be better to just move on

Unless you’re close to retirement, GO! There’s way better jobs out there that don’t s—, pay more, and that you’ll actually enjoy.

Just completed 27 years there. It's a great company. You can have many careers at Intel, in fact it's encouraged. Keep in mind that it seems most of the folks on this forum have been let go for whatever reason so negativity abounds with most, be careful. To be fair, Intel is a great company and will provide you with as many challenges as you can handle. Best of luck.

Don’t work at Intel but a general point is it depends on your personal situation. Do you enjoy it? Are you having opportunities to learn and grow? I guess it depends ....

Why do you not like your job?

If I had any other offer for anything close to a reasonable salary I would leave immediately to pursue something else and build real hard skills, my job is currently a total joke that way. Quit without a plan during a pandemic, that's a tougher question.

What job security? Unless you have a political master, there is no security.