Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Note comment/lie from AK in WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-simplifies-structure-of-sales-team-11609897139

Not sure which is worse IBM for stating the lie below or WSJ for printing it

“The company said its sales team will be trained as part of its continuing education efforts and that there are no planned job or cost cuts associated with the move.”

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IBM is continually educating their resources to expect actions.

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Post ID: @3myc+195r6XBH

Wow. I've seen IBM lie plenty of times but this is a new low. IBM has been cutting jobs since 1993 and everyone knows you can't train for a new job to avoid a layoff, and there is no money for education anyway. This is sickening.

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Post ID: @3nok+195r6XBH

Lies on top of lies...hard to track which ones are lying. As I was listening during my 1:1 RA meeting instantly knew it was a lie regarding the reasons mentioned.

I think the realignment is just a cover story about why so many RA's. How could he not know they were gearing up to gut a whole bunch of sales people days later?

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Post ID: @3ypm+195r6XBH

@pxj Google Steve Cowley Insider Trading It was 21 years ago...guess they didn't have Business Conduct Guidelines. The hypocrisy of IBMs executive leadership is unbelievably sickening I pray they all rot in hell Pieces of $hit There are no mirrors there I suppose

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Post ID: @zuj+195r6XBH

I was RA’d today. Evidently there will be many more. It was blamed on a poor 2020 Q2. If they made things people actually wanted they could perhaps grow instead of flounder and cut jobs to save them from their prior poor decisions.

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Post ID: @aho+195r6XBH

Blame Bridget and Steve Crowley for the BS no cuts line. They’re the ones leading all this stuff.

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Post ID: @pxj+195r6XBH

Sales trying to drive DevOps that has never played well. Best of Luck. And no more CentOS that will be the death knell of RedHat....once Snoracle drops the OEL and switches to Ubuntu and gives in to AWS cloud.

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Post ID: @nxt+195r6XBH

AK is an id–t... he will be replaced in 2022 when he fails to show any progress...
Then JW will take over, and who knows what will happen... but for sure it will be another couple years of IBM's excuses for not growing revenues and the stock price will in the $50-60 range.

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Post ID: @auk+195r6XBH

That WSJ article came out Jan 5, ie before the RAs were communicated inside IBM. If you are new(er) to IBM get used to these kinds of exec pronouncements - from the shoes of a current customer, it reads like you are either one of the (chosen/identified?) 500, or one of the unwashed.

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Post ID: @jeq+195r6XBH

^ Are they such shallow professions, sellers and developers, that there are room for more skills outside the main scope?
Full stack DevSecOps with eternal need to train and skill up to keep the customer while also betting on new training new skills to be fit for future projects.

Plumbers will never get out of work, maybe that would be an additional skill advantage?
Heck just throw in any skill from another profession that delusional financial engineers come up with while they're smoking God knows what.

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Post ID: @mpb+195r6XBH

We need more developers who can show their products/services to our customers. Its better to replace Sales team who tell with developers who showcase the products. If this is going to get more developers in product teams, this is a welcome change. More power (& responsibility) to our Dev teams.

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