The work environment is getting way too toxic and affecting mental health. Can you resign effective immediately being an FTE, without notice?
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Does Cisco extend health insurance to the end of the month after resigning, or does it get cut off that same day if you are walked out?
Working 2 jobs?
How many of you are working two jobs (WFH)?
That way if you loose one income... Well...
The hardest part of Cisco is when the manager puts someone else on PIP and then that person leave to another company.
In that case manager comes looking for someone else for PIP paperwork.
In some cases, people with 20 years industry experience were told, "it's your turn, I have no choice".
In those cases if your hair is silvery , buy Grecian formula hair dye.
I've only seen Cisco place one guy on a performance plan. It's nearly impossible.
Then you're a newbie. I was on a PIP back in '10. Got impacted by the Workforce Reduction (WFR) of '11. A co-worker was on a PIP too and he got impacted in the same WFR as me. Another co-worker was on a PIP the year prior and he left once he lined up a better gig.
But, yeah, I haven't heard about anyone being on a PIP in nearly 10 yrs. Given that people don't talk about being on a PIP, it's hard to tell unless you work closely with them or you're seeing someone have weekly meetings with their manager. I'm guessing that HR has told management that it's easier – and probably quicker – to let someone go as part of the next major LR than it is to document poor performance as part of the PIP.
Not long ago, an SVP GM with 20Y at cisco resigned with two weeks notice.
Use this table to see where you should be:
Grade / resignation time per Cisco standard
SVP: 2 weeks
VP2: 10 days
VP: 6 days
Sr. Director, DE: 4 days
Director/PE: 3 days
Grade 12: 18 hours
grade 11 and below; same day notify and walk out
Depending on how many PTO days you have left. I knew a lot of people that gave notice and then took 2-weeks of PTO. They only showed up to return their laptops and badge on their last day.
Toxic work cultures can be absolutely unbearable, understandably. Every second may seem like a year with legs shackled by iron chains. Wish you all the good luck in your job search, even internally lot of openings have come up. Any decision, is YOURS alone to make please. If one day more feels like a lot, you can ofcourse certainly leave. As some posts said, if one can pull it along, PIP and exiting with benefits is a great way, while prepping for the next good job. Please trust in your skillset and yourself, next career leap might just be the best decision of your life. Am sorry for your tough luck here, most of Cisco teams actually have pretty relaxed work culture.
I've only seen Cisco place one guy on a performance plan. It's nearly impossible.
Just lower your work standards, take it easy and just collect a paycheck for a while. Wait until you are almost put on a performance improvement plan and take the “layoff “ package offered. Make sure you use your medical as much as possible and maximize the use of all benefits.
Game the system as much as possible while you decide your next career steps.
Lincoln freed the slaves ... so yeah you can quit anytime.
Take some mental health days ASAP and don’t make a rash decision.
Try to find a better spot on another team at Cisco, preferably in the 10% not controlled by V2Momma. Even if it leads you to a layoff later, you might find a better team, make some new connections, and get some free money when they let you out.
I left Cisco for free. Dumb move on my part.
Everybody is WFH, what toxic work environment are you talking about? If you some folks at Cisco are pissing you off even while you are remote, piss them off too. Ignore their phone calls, emails (respond after 6+ hrs), don't accept chat invites, join meeting late, etc.
As someone already mentioned earlier, once you give your 2 weeks notice, you don't have to do any work. Just chillout at home for those 2 weeks. If you are in the US, you will Fedex your laptop to some IT guys, check with your mgr for details. You can keep your Cisco badge as a souvenir.
Use up your medical benefits before you leave. Buy medications you will need for the next 12 months. Take your entire family for dental checkup/cleaning.
Like it was mention in an earlier post, resign and say you are going to a competitor. I left for a competitor and was gone within 4 hours. I submitted a letter of resignation right before meeting with my manager having my last day being 2 weeks, and they will pay you for those days too. Make sure you have everything you need, they will cut off access to their internal sites. As frustrated as you are, try to take the professional road. Good Luck
If you take a leave of absence, your name will go in the LR hopper for next round, unless you are a "rock star" (that was a heavily abused term when I worked at Cisco). Same thing goes for extended vacations, family leave, etc. If you truly want to leave, give your 2 weeks notice and mention you are going to a competitor. Once upon a time, if you mentioned a competitor's name when leaving, you would get packed up and walked out immediately, unless you had some super critical work to finish. Not sure if that applies now.
Don't burn a bridge as it will come back to bite you. Take some time and take the emotion out of your decision and think about what is best for you professionally long term. There are many tools that can help you get thru the short term pain. As someone said a LOA could be a good option (or even a week off just to think things over).
If you are a Cisco employee, I would recommend looking into a short term medical leave instead. If you’re in the US you are normally covered by the FMLA family medical leave act. They might be able to hold your position for you for a few months while you decide what to do. Better than severing ties completely. In light of the fact it’s a toxic event for you, it sounds as if a mental health break might be appropriate. Best wishes to you.
As someone has already pointed out, it depends on what country you are in and the local laws.
In the U.S., Cisco is an "at-will" employer and can terminate you at any time for any reason, without notice. On the flip side of that, you can also quit at any time for any reason.
Here are some things to consider though. With the high rate of turn over within Cisco, you're likely to work with or work under someone from Cisco again. And, more importantly, you may be interviewing for a role with someone who used to be at Cisco. How you leave a company, no matter how toxic, says something about you. And with the Internet and sites like LinkedIn, it's very easy to find someone who knew you when you left your prior role.
If you suddenly quit just before a significant deadline leaving it unfinished just to screw over Cisco or your management, it looks bad on you. If you have your responsibilities taken care of and have documented any outstanding tasks for an orderly hand-off, then it doesn't look bad.
In many cases, depending on your role and what resources you have access to, you may be asked to work with someone and perform an knowledge transfer and turn in your badge/laptop/company assets by the end of the day and you get paid for whatever notice you give because they decided you were a "risk" and walked you out rather than letting you work your notice period.
Food for thought.
Depends on country and local laws.
Of course you can. but why? You cannot bear to live there for 2 more weeks after a notice? Once you give the notice, you are at the sideline watching, what more can they do to you? 2 week pay won't hurt.