I can stomach working with brown nosers, every team and every department has those. But when they start taking credit for the things I did and managers let it fly, then we have a problem. This has been happening even more than usual lately and I'm getting ready to report every single one of them - even if that means I'll be targeted by the HR. Enough is enough.
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That is why this company does not go to the next level. People are worried about each other instead of what os best t the company
But I don’t blame the employees since Exxon created all this
My boss have the same thing on different employees pds because they are not on the same ranking group.
All on this company is to learn how to play the game and not how to make the best decisions
@1yeo+1a4cgWY3 not always the case! There’s plenty of opportunity to recycle and repackage “step outs” to get credit for the same things over and over. The entire top of the EMIT organization “yesterday’s technology tomorrow” is really good at this. All of their “top” initiatives are years or in some cases over a decade old. Are we “digital” yet? I can think of one “digit” on my hand I’d raise to that.
I remember once my manager mentioning how one of my coworkers had found a particularly relevant external technical publication.
I responded “and by found you mean she typed into google the key words that I was suggesting as I stood over her shoulder.”
I knew the author from a previous company so I knew the work had been published but it didn’t stop my coworker from giving people the impression she had found it on her own.
Just so you know not all managers are bad. I caught one of my employees doing this, and it was one of a few things that went towards me placing him in NI. But I got “involuntaried” so I can no longer be The Guardian of the PADP.
@zlq - @udv here. You're 100% correct. In fact, that's exactly what happened to me in 2018 and 2019. Then guess what ? NSI'd in July 2020. I know (from various things that senior managers said in meetings) that my supervisor claimed credit for work that I (and others) had done. It's the same old story: "My direct reports are cr@p, but I'm a great manager - look at the results I have achieved !"
For the people stating that an individual should simply speak to their manager and make sure they're getting credit on their PDS for work that is getting claimed by a peer, it's just not that simple. I had repeated incidents of this happening during my first two years at Exxon. I was an experienced hire and was helping our team go through our process manual and make suggestions upward on how to become more efficient and brought ideas from my previous experience. With me being new I didn't realize that my peers who had been at the company longer were going and having coffee and beers with senior VPs that they knew on a personal level and giving them all of the details of what we were working on as a team. Of course, they didn't mention the names behind the effort, just that they were leading it and making improvements. Scenarios like this happened again and again. Myself or someone I knew would have a bright idea and then it would get mentioned to someone on the LT and we'd hear it discussed on a call later with the attention placed on a different individual. At that point, it didn't matter if it was on our PDS or not. The credit was already taken and cashed in by others.
: @lse+1a4cgWY3 = probably one of the nitwits running around taking credit for other peoples work.
Mixed bag of responses, but it is clear everyone knows what you're talking about.
It is not a universal issue, but common.
This company has perfected it.
You speak the truth!
No other company is like this. None!
You will never, ever have to complain about how they treat you. It will be Utopia!
Please take me with you!
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@1czq+1a4cgWY3 chemicals? Lol..
@mzi You are absolutely spot on. That also works for senior technical people with exce6expat pay and benefits keeping the local affiliate nitwits out if trouble while allowing them to pretend they've done some real engineering. When my ego starts whining I just look at those expat checks and smile.
The HR VP and HR care less.
I’m still really surprised how protected the managers are. My S&OP manager is terrible but she is safe.. that’s how things are. Head winds to structural change that is needed. I’m actively applying for jobs now..
It is not uncommon for loudmouths like you to point the finger in the wrong direction. Look in the mirror next time. You have probably been lame since the beginning of your tenure with the company.
Steal the credit and shift the blame is how it goes in oil and gas
This is a normal, unspoken rule at EM. “Getting the credit is more important than doing the work”.
I agree it's very bothersome when other employees take credit for your work. But if you ever intend to work as a contractor in the future, then it becomes the norm.
I've been on both sides. As a contractor, I had a mindset that since I was so well-paid, surely part of my fee allowed company employees to claim my work as their own and to use me as a scapegoat whenever they messed up. This attitude kept me sane, all the way to the bank.
Sorry to hear that OP. I’ve never had someone take credit for anything I’ve done. But I’ve also had jobs where I had direct contact with my supervisor daily or, like in my current job, I meet formally with my manager every month. Hard for people to take credit when you are updating your boss that frequently. But I realize not all jobs have the same interface and could result in the potential for your work to be claimed by others.
Two of my superiors received promotions off of my work within about 6 months of each other. What did I get? Involuntarily separated. I’ve got a bit of an ax to grind.
@ddq it's actually more typical to compete with your supervisor or manager in the same rank group. This is my case. For the third time, both my supervisor and manager are in the same rank group as me. Guess who is on top and who follows in the seriatum. Then I get the spin and explanations which fit the paperwork. What a bunch of stupid b@stards. Astonishing.
@ddq+1a4cgWY3 - that doesn't stop your co-workers making the same claims on their PDS and if the supervisor "favors" them more than you (for who knows what reasons), then he'll make sure that they get the credit in the ranking meeting (not you). I know because the same damn thing happened to me and 2 co-workers even received "spot awards" for work (on separate occasions), when I'm the one who did it all.
It's getting tedious and old watching all the damage control and posturing employees into compliance. I'm with OP, f this sh*t
HR is no longer called “HR”. They are now “Employee Services”...LOL!!! What a damn joke! But, it’s true. We all knew the “human” factor was always false. As for the “resources”, the only “resource” they could provide was directing you to EHAP. Don’t waste your time with this department that’s quickly falling apart.
If people in your own team are stealing your work, then that’s up to you to discuss with your manager and claim on your PDS.
OP - did you not get to claim what you did on your PDS? The Supervisor has allowed you burn hours on that activity vs other priorities, and provides oversight and reporting, so yes, they also get some credit (for managing).
You and your supervisor and manager are typically all in different rank groups and do not directly compete with each other. So as long as you can claim what you accomplished and that gets compared to what your peers in the same rank group have done, you are getting the credit. That’s the way the system works.
HR won’t care about this. They are only thee to protect company from lawsuits.