It’s foolish for the Union to prevent its members from continuing to work from home. If we go back to an office let’s vote the old crew out. That obviously would show they don’t care about us, so why should we care about them?
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@5qwl+1a9d673r: they have to react that way or else they'd have to admit how badly they messed up
@5qwl+1a9d673r - You putz.
It's amazing to me how union brothers and sisters will break their necks jamming their heads in the sand at the mere suggestion that the narrative they're fed might be the slightest bit untrue.
The notion that the work they do is impossible to the uninitiated... heads shake violently while green goo spews from their mouths.
The suggestion that they are anything but the creme de la creme of wire wirestrippers and fibre fibre pullers... everyone assumes the fetal position and clutch their ears so tightly, they bleed.
The very idea that their leadership is anything but altruistic crusaders standing against the evil greedy corporation... the women faint while the men beat bloody stains into the walls with their heads.
As if union leadership and their families don't have cookouts with VZ leadership and their families.
The spouses and children playing catch, badminton, and croquet while the leaders discuss the future of the union and it's members.
The outcome of any issue has nothing to do with the brothers and sisters... it has everything to do with what benefits the leaders of both organizations. The only time you're considered is if union leaders might look bad to the membership.
Union to Dregs: "Look at me. I'm the captain now!"
Why isn't the union membership forcing the union leadership to represent you accurately.
They work for you. Membership should be making their request known in writing so that it's documented.
While crass, it certainly hits home on the lies from the previous person. Also, If he or she was part of the negotiations for a contract, it certainly shows the class and character of the people Lowell had working for him.
Well, that was a very thoughtful, well reasoned, and eloquent retort. I heartily believe everyone reading this thread will give it appropriate consideration.
Last guy has so much c––p coming out of mouth his b––t is getting jealous of it. Those contractors only benefit was cost. All the c––p that needed to be fixed, all the lies said by overseas vendors, and all the poor work performed by managers was on whole other level.
@3pfw/@3dgq: 1st off... no need to post twice. I understand the technology is confusing, but both our eyes work together off one image.
2nd... in 2016, I did the weekly analysis comparing the unions with the contractors/vendors and the hastily trained management replacements.
The contractors absolutely blew the union away in every respect... repair time, AHT, cost, FTR, customer satisfaction, etc.
The management replacements were not quite up to par with union. However, every union member would be embarrassed at how close they were, and there was significant improvement every week. If the strike had gone on just a couple more weeks, they'd have surpassed union performance in every metric.
Even more enlightening were the types of repair tickets recieved before the strike began, and after it started... the difference indicated either gross union negligence or outright sabotage prior to the strike. In other words... the contractors, vendors, and management replacements had the deck stacked against them and they still outperformed the union.
I highly suspect that any "shoddy contractor work" encountered after the strike was over are leftover examples of union negligence/sabotage.
Lowell, the negotiating team, and I were amazed at how much of a liability the unions were. We had all bought into the union quality myth.
Soooo... no matter how many times you state your opposition. No matter how loudly you say it. The numbers tell the truth. And, they always will.
The unions do substandard work for outrageous cost. VZ will always be looking for ways to undercut, work around, and ultimately free themselves of the unions.
Eventually they will succeed.
@3pnh+1a9d673r Is that you, Lowell? Despite your lies, anybody with a half a brain knows that the union employees not only take care of the "two wire" stuff, but also build and maintain your Fios tv, internet, wireless network, etc... Oh, and there will be another contract extension in '23.
Imagine putting two wires together and calling that a "craft". What a joke.
The contractors couldn’t do and still can’t do the work. That’s what was said in 2016 (among various other years) when even the concept of putting 2 wires together was too difficult for them to grasp. Carry on.
I don't have personal knowledge but imma guess overpaid entitleds can be replaced by contractors for a third of the cost and they work harder too. Imma guess 2023 we will see a lot of that.
I don't have personal knowledge but Imma guess that if you can be working from home in the state you work in, somebody can also be working at home in India doing your job. Now does union resistance to this make more sense? I think we need to start outsourcing our CEO's, Hey wait a minute? Hans V is from the other side of the pond, isn't he? So we already have.
Wait, the union doesn't actually care about you??? Shocking. But I am sure they have no problem cashing those dues checks and living well off of your dime.
Pretty simple. Command and control for the unions.
My WFH is permanent and I don't need to pay dues to a corrupt organized crime syndicate. Don't worry though, your WFH dreams will come true in 2023...Tick Tock! Tick Tock!
Cash me outside howbow dah?