Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Is there a worse place to be an engineer?

Before Intel, I worked at several companies and I thought that Intel would be a place where I would learn a lot, progress and enjoy my work. Now I already think that each of the previous companies was a better place to work. I believe there are a lot of those who think this company is one of the worst places for engineers.

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Intel is not an engineering company, it is a welfare hand-out operation for the cousins and wives of middle management.

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Post ID: @Aeko+1aHMIMX2

We hired a lot of people; many people were hired with almost no interview and were given compulsory promotions.
Minority hiring was mostly the managers' wives, family/friends with quid-pro quo hiring, from the same nationality and ethnicity :D

People who wrote java code (and barely) in some state govt fisheries dept and DMV are all engg managers now at Intel!

What do we expect??

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Post ID: @qyjv+1aHMIMX2

Was with Intel for more than a quarter of a century before leaving a couple of years ago. Work enjoyment and income opportunity now is night and day better than it was in the latter years at Intel. Intel was an outstanding company for engineers if not the best in the semi segment. Unfortunately, severe decline in leadership quality has resulted in a company without accountability and true meritocracy. In such environment, you get toxic political env with extremely flawed strategic planning AND operational health. This issue did not happen over night, and even if it is possible at this point, will take years to turn around. Pat is the best choice to lead Intel right now, but it is very likely too little too late. Truly sad to see….

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Post ID: @ihbv+1aHMIMX2

if you have some use Intel will keep you no matter what like Pat Gelsinger... If you have no use they make sure you wont be hire again by another companies

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Post ID: @7gmc+1aHMIMX2

At least Google eventually fires those diversity bozos like Diane and Danielle. But the Diversity First attitude is permeating many FANG companies now; I've talked to many friends who are hiring managers or interviewers for those companies -- they have to get VP approval to offer a non-Diversity hire. Otherwise, the default is to interview all URM candidates at the application pipeline before considering non-Diversity hires.

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Post ID: @4rpl+1aHMIMX2

The issue is the people at the top who are technically clueless. NS, GB, MJ...the list goes on. They are mostly sales and go to market people who didn’t even get real opportunities to sharpen their marketing and sales skill set. They spent most of their careers doing marketing and sales when Intel’s products were unquestionable market leaders. It doesn’t take a lot of skill to sell GOLD. Just watch NS and Lisa S at a recent product launch event, you feel like ok there is no steak but where is the sizzle.

Then the whole finance gang. Somehow they were made to believe ( thanks to clueless Andy) that they can do strategy and chart the future of intel. Clueless spreadsheet people. They don’t understand if you have sh-t input, you will get sh-t output - regardless of fancy spreadsheet models. Andy, Bob swan. What a nightmare. And their hires...

That is the issue. Those non tech, mediocre people hire and promote their a-s kissers, weak yes men. Charlatans are everywhere. Do you remember Aicha Evans, what about sr fellow anthropologist who works at a university In Australia but still somehow works at intel as a direct report to SVPs...Asha K, resident 5G oh my God. Really??? I don’t respect the engineering leaders who work for these types of bozos. Somehow, they fail year after year and are still provided other cushy jobs to stay.

How can you create a truly great engineering company when these people are around? I cringe every time I see NS and the types of people whom he promoted and continues to promote at DCG - Zane, Jason, Lisa, Rebecca, das, etc...I cringe when I see the new Chief strategy officer - Bob’s parting gift, aicha’s buddy. Sandra Lopez what a joke, makes you think maybe a senior fellow anthropologist who never delivered anything not that bad.

But after saying this, I fear this toxicity is pervasive in tech now. There are many reasons for it. Charlatanism is as high or even higher than the dot com years. At least during dot.com, innovations were impactful. Some current tech is harmful, bitcoin, surveillance, tracking, unethical companies. No doubt there are pockets of great places. In my opinion Google is nothing but intel 10 years ago. When you are a top dog, everyone wants to join. When there is more supply than demand, you know what happens. a lot of hiring gimmicks to make themselves feel good. They have the upper hand. But look at google’s own accomplishments outside the ad business & the companies they acquired. Bad. Also look at who google has been hiring from intel.

If you are still young, try to create your own business. Don’t waste your good years working in these sh-t show companies.

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Post ID: @4jxp+1aHMIMX2

Engineers at intel are nothing more than slaves to be abused by predatory and corrupt management. gr10+ "engineers" are management, do not confuse those powerpoint jockeys as real engineers.

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Post ID: @3irq+1aHMIMX2

No interesting projects to work on, surrounded by non-tech people and feel so isolated. If you are willing to do the real work, OK you are on your own. Especially for a SW engineer, people here only have those out-of-date technologies and pretend they know by using some modern terms in their PPTs. If you are disciplined person, you actually have time to learn and do self improvements then GTFO. :) But most people I saw have been with the company for too long, do the boring and routine work everyday and could not go anywhere already.

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Post ID: @3fmr+1aHMIMX2

I got contacted over a year ago by a recruiter from Intel and she and the hiring manager were excited about my experience, but things didn't move forward. After what I have read on this board I consider myself super lucky I didn't get hired by Intel. It seems I dodged a bullet. It boggles my mind the disparity between the reviews on Glassdoor and what people are talking about on this board. Seems like two completely different worlds!

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Post ID: @3rnl+1aHMIMX2

Yup Samsun is really bad. I know people who can attest to that.

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Post ID: @2udn+1aHMIMX2

I think some of you believe Samsung is worse place to work compare to Intel
then I bet TSMC won't be good place to work either
This make a summary that industrial leader at their end always requires more, and not a GPTW
wonder what you are looking at, you want a higher salary but working in a sh-t company?
or you want to work hard (no GTPW), some good income and satisfaction that the company is doing well?
or you don't mind lower income, bad environment. company profit is non of your business, then Intel is a right place. consider its bonuses are quite predictable

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Post ID: @2oof+1aHMIMX2

Not sure I believe you. Where I sit they only hire rcg or military.

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Post ID: @2tlu+1aHMIMX2

Some managers only pretend to care how much you learn, and then at the end just count how much you bust your @$$ to produce. Their rhetoric and how they actually treat things are separate.

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Post ID: @2zse+1aHMIMX2

There definitely are much worse places than Intel, trust me.

Samsung is one of them. But there are a lot.

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Post ID: @1jgs+1aHMIMX2

Part of the problem is training and travel fall in the same budget, and management uses the money for their personal boondoggles.

Sandra Lopez says hi from Davos.

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Post ID: @1rrm+1aHMIMX2

management spent the money hiring their cousins and wives.

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Post ID: @1xph+1aHMIMX2

Learn a lot at Intel? From my experience, Intel managers will not spend a penny on technical training for their engineers. Part of the problem is training and travel fall in the same budget, and management uses the money for their personal boondoggles.

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Post ID: @1trj+1aHMIMX2

Nope! That‘s why I left. I am a much happier person now!

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Post ID: @1izc+1aHMIMX2

how this dinosaur will fall
Intel's engineer should leave Intel for Google they are much better

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Post ID: @1lzm+1aHMIMX2

Intel still go for fresh grad
maybe you joined as experienced, then it is internal equity issue

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Post ID: @1hox+1aHMIMX2

Worst place ever unless you like politics, back stabbing, mediocre pay, horrible management, arrogant managers…. Yeah, intel sux.

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Post ID: @1kbe+1aHMIMX2

There’s a reason GPTW is gone

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Post ID: @1scd+1aHMIMX2

no. intel is a place for charlatans, bloviators and slide-masters.

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