I’m trying with all my might to answer this question. Is the new way to promote someone anointing whomever you want to a job opening? Not that I’ve gotten a raise in 5 years, but are they just giving all the extra money to new hires? I don’t get why oracle has to be the worst of the tech but I’m really truly wondering if anyone gets jobs by being the best qualified person for the job. I know for my GBU, new product lines seem to just hire their own who left before they were acquired; which is terrible.
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Delusive is the word that comes to mind on this topic .... Or-l-A-Cull is made up of mafia groups all around, either you are in or your out - or just a pawn for collateral damages for one of the factions. Good luck to anyone still working there raises and promotions are what you get at a real company. Time to put away your toys children and pull out your napping pads for the day, if you are quiet you might get a snack later (NEVER).
| China celebrates 20 holidays per year. So what’s your point?
In China you are expected to work from 9Am to 9PM, Mon-Sat, also known as the 996 rule.
Was on a call where a new incompetent VP (less than 60 days at the company) in CM's org under ST threw out 80% of the years accomplishments and KPI's; he's reviewing people for Focal based on his personal assessment of them in their first 1:1's. He's also giving anyone who left his org (after inviting people to do so on his first all hands call) a 2 rating regardless of accomplishments or KPI's met. HR is working overtime looking the other way.
5 years, no raises. I am 6 months away from retiring. I will send the same email salutation that LE did awhile back: Mahalo
Yeah, as it’s been pointed out before numerous times: It’s all in the Glassdoor and other crowdsourced reviews sites. Oracle’s lack of raises is a feature, not a bug. It literally IS how they do business.
If you've been in a position for 3-4 years and haven't gotten a raise or promotion it's time to look for a new job - no matter who you work for. I got laid off from Oracle in 2017 and I thought getting laid off was going to be a sticking point in interviews. But interviewers asked me more about why I stayed at the company so long, with few promotions or raises.
If you need motivation other than fearing that any moment you might be laid off look at your linkedin connections and see how your colleagues have grown their careers compared to you.
You can also go to an online inflation calculator and enter the current year and your current salary, and see what the money was worth in the year you started. You'll likely see you're making less than when you started when accounting for inflation.
It might be hard to hear, but Oracle isn't going to all of the sudden start giving employees huge salary increases and promotions. This is how the company operates.
Remember, you get treated the way you let people treat you.
For the person who had their credit stolen, I’m sorry. That’s terrible but it’s happened to me. My old manager and his pet did it to me. In the age of keyboard warriors, they don’t have to deal with face to face interrogation.
I worked weekends to get a lot of code written. Then credit for it was all given to someone else who did nothing. Oracle was a waste of my time. Oracle is also a waste of your time.
Don't bother, get out of Oracle, it's just a waste of time.
If only you know how to kiss a$$$ is when you get a promotion or even a measly raise! else, they will work you to death at night or weekends.
If you work weekends for oracle you are not playing but rather getting played. I feel sorry for you.
See other comments about holidays and UK having a month off.
Imagine being on your death bed realizing the free time you spent working for the the ora-h_e?
The beautiful people society comment cracked me up. So true.
My gbu leader has so much Botox and hair dye she should work for Walgreens or CVS.
I know non tech workers who make under 80k who are a lot happier than anyone I’ve seen at O.
You do not want to work under market value, but a great culture and work environment beats a great salary every day.
Come to think of it, at Oracle, you get neither. Unless you are inducted in the Oracle Beautiful People's Society do you really get market value?
No one in Europe works the entire month of August. China celebrates 20 holidays per year. So what’s your point?
Nobody work weekends? Not true at all. We always work weekends every quarter end and have been told lately we need to “volunteer” to work OT at night during the week, to get us through quarter end, but when Covid happened the OT was the first thing they snatched from us.
Nobody works on Saturday or Sunday at Oracle?
Seriously, you believe that? Then I must have been ‘playing’ this weekend?
You simply don’t know what you are talking about.
No one in the US at oracle works on Saturday or Sunday. Deserving a raise at Oracle and deserving a raise at a normal company are very different. If you believe otherwise they’ve done a good job brainwashing. And not for nothing, it’s a job, not your entire identity. Unless you’re some SVP or VP whose life revolves around O. I know non tech workers who make under 80k who are a lot happier than anyone I’ve seen at O.
Do you deserve a raise? If you think you do then why are you hanging out here?
Just a question. If Oracle is just like AWS and Google, why are so many trying to work for them and not Oracle? Why do they win the big contracts? I don’t work for the company but will be honest, if you’re not in the field or live near an office, most never even heard about Oracle. And sadly, not many care about how bad it might be. I read the article about that guy. It’s sad. I figure this isn’t a one off at all cause he was pretty high up the chain.
Oh you got me. Hahahahqhqh. Nah. I’m gonna sponge off this place even more than I ever did. I’ve already saved a ton but I’m happy you are so strong. I’m sure the guys love your strength.
All due respect but I see qualified people get hired and promoted in e real world. People that are purely a$$ kissers and
If you are frustrated by this then there is a very simple solution. Go work somewhere else. Or, are you too weak?
All due respect but I see qualified people get hired and promoted in e real world. People that are purely a$$ kissers and hangers on yes, are promoted, but you’d think in tech they’d be able to find the power button.
Both of you are spot on. You are. I’m the OP. I am seeing people who got promoted into positions cause they were literally friends with the hiring manager or their old manager green lighted them.
Sorry - but Oracle is not unique in the industry in this regard. Welcome to the real world.
It was ever so!
The hint is in the recent lawsuit that was posted with SMK. The guy that hired him said he just wanted to make this work for a few more months.
Seriously, the management know they are just there to take home whatever money they can for the moment before the whole thing collapses. They are bringing in their friends on the deal to get whatever they can out of Oracle before it sinks.
I wouldn't be surprised if LE is thinking exactly the same way. The guy that hired SMK spent 20 years in the navy. Suppose LE gave him the job to get military contacts? Maybe LE himself is just thinking, I can make this work for a few more months.
Seriously, don't work yourselves to death, the management knows the whole thing is a scam that could collapse at any moment.
Both of you are spot on. You are. I’m the OP. I am seeing people who got promoted into positions cause they were literally friends with the hiring manager or their old manager green lighted them. It makes no sense to me. Like. I feel like I’m at some family business. Well a very dysfunctional family.
Performance and qualifications. Not "I know I do a better job than person X who got promoted/raised."
Nothing taboo about salary discussions. That would be illegal under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). It's actually protected speech, whether in person or online
You cannot forbid employees – either verbally or in written policy – from discussing salaries or other job conditions among themselves. period.
Unless you are a manager, it is hard to know whether anyone is getting a raise, because salary discussions are a big tabu topic. Promotions, on the other hand, are based on the amount of a-s kissing, not your technical prowess.