Thread regarding Whole Foods Market Inc. layoffs

This is why we can't hire/keep people

We pay newly-hired people the same wage they can earn anywhere, we deny them full time hours, and demand open availability, making a second job difficult to get or maintain. For this pittance, we run people into the ground, threaten them with corny corrective action if they forget to sign a log, and offer them an environment that is thoroughly depressing. Veteran team members rarely establish friendships with new team members because we miserable, and we know they'll be gone in two months, and in many cases, we welcome that, because Whole Foods Market deserves the chaos it's created. That, and we don't seem to be discriminating about who we hire, so rarely does a new team member's departure feel like a significant loss.

Our inability to maintain regular teams has nothing to do with unemployment benefits, and everything to do with this clueless, out of touch company offering people absolutely no incentive to work for Whole Foods Market.

Bumped from @lvw+1aPpW5BR, perfectly summarized.

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Yep it creates a huge burden on the employees when someone quits or is fired. If you have a 5 person workload and 2 people quit under Whole Foods law the remaining 3 members are required to complete all the task of 5 people no overtime allowed

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Post ID: @7lsv+1aURXgZi

That’s what I was talking about. You don’t understand. So lash out like a child’.

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Post ID: @3odl+1aURXgZi

@OP+1aURXgZi First off let's be real life you wrote

hbs+1aURXgZi AMEN to your post. You totally understand what good, hardworking, loyal team members feel. Thank you! People that think your post was wrong are the stupid ones. They don't understand what you are talking about so until they get it, they just need to be quiet.

Take your own advice and up shut!! Be kind your parents can't hurt you anymore.

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Post ID: @1tso+1aURXgZi

hbs+1aURXgZi AMEN to your post. You totally understand what good, hardworking, loyal team members feel. Thank you! People that think your post was wrong are the stupid ones. They don't understand what you are talking about so until they get it, they just need to be quiet.

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Post ID: @1ppd+1aURXgZi

@una+1aURXgZi. I'm not walking back sh-t, and we both know that. My initial statement, though clear enough for everyone else to understand, was explained in detail in my second comment. If you're too stupid to understand it, then that's on you.

But you're not that stupid. Nobody is that stupid. Either you didn't read my second comment, or you're a global/regional/store management type who refuses to acknowledge the role you play in all this.

The language you use is similar to that of abusers who gaslight their victims, and similar to the drivel that my STL lays out to his TLs, blaming them for the mass exodus, so I think it's a reasonable to deduce that you fall into the latter category.

Nobody on my team, including me, has been hostile to new team members except my ATL. Predictably, the abusers in store leadership have given him a pass. Keep trotting out your d-mb misinterpretation of my comments. Everyone here knows you're full of sh-t.

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Post ID: @1atm+1aURXgZi

Your quote:
“We know they’ll be gone in two months and in many cases we welcome that, because WFM deserves the chaos it’s created”
You are walking back your comments...you appear irrational now ( on top of being mean to new hires)
Please change for your own sake n get help...you are probably not a bad person but you are, at this point, severely malfunctioning and are jeopardizing the success of your team/ store

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Post ID: @una+1aURXgZi

hbs+1aURXgZi - I wrote the post that's been quoted here, and your interpretation is laughably short-sighted. Nowhere did I say that veteran team members isolate new hires. Nowhere did I insinuate anything of the sort.

Since your imagination is stronger than your reading comprehension, I'll spell it out for you. Veteran team members are exhausted, frustrated, overwhelmed and overworked. We work in an environment where we're unappreciated and stressed. Those of us who have been foolish enough to stick around are so beat up that we're not even as warm toward team members who we've known for years as we used to be. It should follow that if we're too overwhelmed by abusive leadership, pointless tasks, and a consistent lack of resources to be warm toward our friends, then we'll have even less to give to people we just met. I'm as welcoming as possible to new hires, but in the environment in which I work, I'm not the happy person I was when I started with Whole Foods. It's difficult to be everyone's friend when you have low-level panic attacks every day before work. Remember the kids in school who came from abusive homes? They weren't exactly the most positive people either.

Also, the turnover rate is so high, that it's depressing to make friends with people only to have them leave a few months after starting. I'm really tired of saying goodbye to people I like. Case in point: a new hire of mine just quit after two months. As I always have more to do than time in which to do it, I never had an opportunity to get to know the guy. When I saw him, I had enough time to say hello, and to give him guidance for the day, nothing more. Two days before he walked out in disgust over how rude store leadership was, we had a few minutes to connect, and we realized that we had a great deal in common. It was a real drag to make friends only to have him leave soon thereafter. That gets old, especially when it plays out every two weeks.

My happiness over the departure of new team members is twofold. I'm happy to see anyone leave a bad situation, and I wouldn't wish the conditions in my store on anyone. Perhaps your store is run by people who are in possession of a modicum of empathy, but mine is run by sociopaths. Two, I think that the only way that the clowns who run this circus will see how awful their policies are is by a mass exodus. They haven't listened on morale surveys, tip line calls, or in face to face conversations. Maybe they'll listen this way.

I've never done anything to run off new hires, but I've never lied to them. They deserve my honesty. When they tell me they're thinking of looking for a new job, I encourage them, because like I said, nobody deserves to put up with the abusiveness of my store and much of this company. Unlike the myopic monsters who run this company, I want to see people happy.

I'm an honest person, and I have too much respect even for people I don't know than to lie to them. At this dismal point in the company, I can't, in good conscience, look someone in the eye and tell them that things will get better.

Whole Foods Market created these conditions, and they deserve to face the consequences.

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Post ID: @qur+1aURXgZi

To paraphrase: The person who wrote this thread states that they usually isolate new team members and are often happy when they leave because it’s proper revenge against upper management-
This is the level of stupidity wfm is dealing with at this point...you cannot operate with Tm’s that think this way...and based on how hot this site is w/ negativity (compared to the many other layoff sites) I don’t think this is isolated behavior

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Post ID: @hbs+1aURXgZi

Why bother working if you won't make a living wage and you can collect unemployment ?

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Post ID: @hse+1aURXgZi

So you welcome new team members leaving? Doesn't that place a heavier workload on you and the others that are left? Doesn't make sense.

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