The manager of my group said that we need to complete the Vacine form. He said it’s anonymous but he does not know the consequences if we don’t complete.
What type of company are we working for?
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I do not want to work with people who are infected with the virus, and so filthy that they won’t get vaccinated. If you don’t want to get vaccinated, and don’t want to fill in a form, go work somewhere else. You’re dirty.
If you are not willing to get the vaccine we do not want you here. I would make it a condition of employment and separate those that refuse for non medical reasons. The rest of want to be safe. Your personal freedom does not override your personal responsibility.
If you cannot separate vaccine fact from fiction your contributions and value to XOM are questionable.
Oh come on....do you want to ever progress and get to a “new normal”? Get the vaccine, then complete the form. Or don’t. How can sound decisions ever be considered if there is zero information on how many employees have been vaccinated? I hope the site where I work will not reverse the mitigation steps implemented if the aggregate data reflects 1% of the employee and contractor population have been vaccinated. Better yet, maybe mandatory vaccination will be next.
The important observation for me with this post is the fact this kind of thing turns into such a big deal, which spells bigger problems for the company. And, totally doesn't surprise me given there is no trust left, so I don't blame you all for how you're acting. If I was still there, I'd be the same way.
But, I left, and my new employer is asking for the same info. Had no issue to provide it, because I have way more trust with them. And from what I can tell most employees gladly complied with the request. Like, not a big deal at all, assumed appropriate measures were being taken to protect medical info, etc. And to the another poster's point, your HIPAA argument is null given EEOC's guidance. Just get the shot, fill the form out, and embrace the hunger games that are about to begin...
The identifiable data goes into the MOH system, other functions see aggregated data. I doubt your management is going to see your data. That woukd be a HIPAA violation, with the associated penalties.
My manager said he needed to take my temperature.. What’s wrong with this place?
You one of those people doing yoga and playing bocce ball on campus instead of working
It is not anonymous it uses Sso to track
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It's not anonymous if your employee ID is associated.
This Company used to pride itself on ethical behavior, attention to detail and pragmatism. Clearly we've lost that along the way or it was just a dream for me... Point being, this isn't an acceptable way to treat valued employees.
It's just a job and when our own values don't match the company's, the end is certain. Good luck all! Nothing but positive wishes for each of you. I'm truly sorry if my leave means one of you will now be in the bottom bucket :(
How is an anonymous response to a survey equal to medically identifiable information? It's not.
Plus, you are simply wrong with your comment about the scope of an employer. The EEOC states "not only can employers ask their employees whether they have been vaccinated, but they can also request proof of vaccination". Further, employers can require a vaccination as a condition of employment. Have you not heard about hospitals across the country requiring a Covid vaccination for all medical staff?
It's not a violation of your privacy because you can choose not to work there. Just like they can enforce policies requiring safety shoes. Don't like it, quit. Don't comply, get fired.
This comes from recent guidance from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), which enforces federal nondiscrimination laws in the workplace.
Shut up and fill out the form or get PIPd. It’s that simple.
But muh DNA and health, it’ll be altered!!
proceeds to skip the gym, eat fast food, smoke cigs and drink alcohol
Fair point regarding vaccine requirements to travel.
Let me be clear, for those that wish to have the vaccine and are able should do so. We are certainly privileged to have such treatment. However, asking each person to submit identifiable medical data is outside the scope of an employer. I'm sure fancy company lawyers could argue otherwise, but this is just another step toward being tracked by Big Brother. We're already deeply tracked; I certainly won't help support further intrusion. It truly is privileged, but it's also one that I will fight to retain.
You obviously have done little or no global travel for EM. Vaccine records are as important as a passport in many countries to gain entry or obtain a visa. Plus, for your own safety, the company won’t let you travel without proper protection from prevalent diseases such as malaria. It’s not about privacy, it’s about safety. Even the US is headed down this path. Won’t be long before you can’t fly, cruise, etc. without proof of Covid vaccine.
It is just common sense for EM to have some idea of how many employees have received the Covid vaccine. May influence return to campus, whether vaccines should be offered at campus, or may even be required by Harris County. It’s anonymous. Get over it.
I wish I could respond positively to that question. I wish I could just get a vaccine wherever or at MOH. I would be shouting from the rooftops that in two weeks time I have antibodies and can move about the world with less concerns. Not in my country and not for another 3 - 4 months.
Check your priviledge, mo--ns. Millions of people have the vaccines now, you are not so special, snowflakes. Get that vaccine and stfu.
Pretty sure the email says you need to fill out the form if you’ve received a vaccine. I don’t believe there is even a place to say you haven’t received it yet.
A copany tha dnt car mush on speling.
That's what I heard.
I am not getting any dang shot and I am going to write that on the dang form.
Or the type that spends endless hours revising PowerPoint to avoid the occasional typo rather than focusing on the merits of the information being presented
Haven’t heard of this yet but I’m not in Houston either.
My guess is it’s a very typical EM “come up with a conclusion and then collect data to try and support it”, in this case a justification for full return to office. I think everyone should say they weren’t vaccinated.
Asking an individual to submit health data, even to the Medical department, is very intrusive. It's nobody's business whether an individual received a vaccine. They need to use public statistics of the local population and base their reopening plans on that. Let's hope Facility Mgmt and Medical figure out themselves before an employee seeks legal recourse and opens this great Company to even more trouble.
Maybe you should read your email instead of complaining here.
Apparently the kind that hires people who can’t spell “vaccine.”
Lol- “delete”. I get about 5 ‘delete’ emails a day...
The consequence is that managers and employees will continue to get bothered to respond until they deem there’s enough data to tell everyone to return to work.