I’ve been with the company for less than 3 years and I’m wondering how difficult it would be to move laterally so that I can gain more experience and learn new skillsets? I personally don’t see myself here for more than 10-15 years but would like to be able to have a vast majority of knowledge to take with me as I grow my career.
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It’s a good move you’re thinking to move laterally after about 3 years in the same job, any longer and you’ll probably not enjoy it any more, probably why you’re thinking about it.
It shouldn’t be that hard but not that quick, I’d start by spreading the word that you are interested in something different, not completely different though, and apply on the talent hub website, and contact the hiring managers (some may not reply), you can tell your manager about it if you have a good relation with him/her. HR would tell you you’re responsible for your career, moving up, sideways, down, and that it’s yours but honestly if there are no opportunities well at least you out the word out there.
You can try externally as well but hiring companies will want what you do/did and not what you’d like or want to do, so better to get more experience and knowledge before doing this.
Interesting that you plan to leave in 10–15 yrs, so 3–4 more roles at Honeywell and you’re out ? Not sure how to advise you here but think why you’d want to leave or stay, don’t make money your incentive, this will come either at Honeywell or other places.
Good luck
10-15 years? Work on moving out of the company. Not worth staying here writing MOS on how to do your work, rather than just doing it.
Lateral is easy. Network with people you already work with to demonstrate your abilities and make connections.
With the RIFs and people bailing, it should be relatively easy to make a lateral move - if you weren't a troll who's only here to stir the p-t. The reality is that HR, Aero execs, and others regularly read the posts here, and a few try to counteract what they think is damage - rather than the perspective of those who have lived the disaster that is Honeywell. Many in leadership are shocked and dismayed because a number of their 1 blocks are fleeing the sinking ship - mainly because those departures are counted as "regrettable losses" in their metrics and it's held against them. The level of desperation to keep those few former employees has become amusing to watch, if not a painful exercise for the escapees. Well, ALT and HON Corporate - you reap what you sow. Good luck.
These company sock puppets pretending to be the average employee are boring and pathetic
If you actually believe that HR cares enough about you now, to bother trolling third party websites, then I really don't understand how your body remembers how to breathe. And, why would any executive care about a few washed up never has beens, for that matter? No, I am working class, doing my job, day in and day out. Which is probably why I'm still here after RIF after RIF after RIF.
Pathetic that HR has to pay someone to troll us to try to keep us in line. And even more pathetic to be that troll.
Dude, you keep coming back here looking for intelligent signs of life and not finding any, seek to bully the posters here into not speaking their minds about their experiences with H. How delusional is that? Not gonna happen.
You know the definition of insanity: repeating the same actions over and over, expecting a different result.
I may be in the minority here, but oh look, there ARE people that agree with me. They just have the constraint not to type it up. Go cry in your safe spot, and don't forget tell your therapist how mean the person on the computer was that made you cry again...
Just wander off and stay gone. Unlikely that you would consider anything other than yourself as intelligent life, so just go back to the conference room where you're convinced you belong.
You are in the minority here and your taunts accomplish nothing. They certainly don't make anyone proud to work at a company that values those of your ilk.
Troll Lives Matter...so the people who stay have the privilege of working with a sweetheart like you? Awesome!
Hey TLM, did you see the post calling out "corporate lickspittles"? Yeah, you. LMAO!
Get off my bridge, silly billy goat!
This company has been around for a hundred years, and will be around for a hundred more after you. So, do you really think it is the company that was the problem? Or, maybe it's the couple dozen that are so upset that they lost the one thing they ever really cared about- their paycheck.
Guess it's only ok to blow off steam here, as long as they share the same disdain for the corporate heads that you do.
Constantly telling people to quit, sc–w the company, and that the company is a sinking ship and everyone is doomed is absolutely pointless.
If you are so happy, and better off now that the company has seen no value in you, why are you so hurt??
I have been laid off, for business reasons. I have been passed over for someone with less ability. You know what? I still do my job, and do it well while I am here.
PS, we vent here because of things that happened BEFORE or after we quit, retired, or were laid off. Plenty of people here are relieved to not have to back to that cr-p. Personally, I'm angry with myself for staying as long as I did and putting up with a–holes like you.
@1dyh, let me state clearly that YOU are the one who needs therapy for repeatedly coming to a layoff site and picking on people who are relating their experiences and feelings, when you are more interested in becoming one of their torturers than concerned with being laid off.
You are a TROLL, and that is a sickness. Pathetic, really. Why don't you sign your name to your posts so MM, DA, etc. can know how valiantly you defend their empire so you can get that promotion faster?
Now GTF back to work!
LOL. If you might need therapy because you were a business decision, Then clearly they made the RIGHT decision in letting you go.
THELAYOFF.com is also not a forum to to tell everyone to quit, because you got your feelings hurt.
Run rabbit run
gtfo from toxic work,
else your bounty will be
stress, fear, no MIP, no pay
no raise, separation grom your wife,
separation from life,
decoupling from your family,
estrangement from your children,
sitting at home broke alone
in the dark
holding a we—n to your temple
deciding if you need another day of beatings from Honeywell
pull the trigger and leave the awful place, find decent employment anywhere else, if only Home Depot or Walmart door greeter,
bu recover you dignity
get out, glt out, get out
run rabbit run, gtfo
there is nothing good for you here
just a bunch of stress, harassment, and cancer
gtfo !
There are a few folks that visit here that seem to be mid to upper management and totally committed to Honeywell. Directors or senior managers most likely in aerospace I think based on the pattern of comments and speech. Likely female as the topics are often topics associated slightly more on the people side.
If it hits home then know that Honeywell can spot these things as easily as I can.
They could identify me too but my pension check will still show up every month.
@kug, not the sharpest tool in the shed, eh? Just Stop coming here to the L-A-Y-O-F-F site and berating people who are here letting off steam. That's what this site is intended for - people who have been laid off or otherwise separated, often on a schedule other than their own, and those who seek information on the likelihood of cuts in their groups. This is not the Honeywell Career Optimization site. Go find it or start one if you want useful career advice and stop harrassing us.
I have to wonder why people come here to the Honeywell Layoff site expecting positive career guidance to forge a long, happy, and profitable career at Honeywell. There has got to be a more appropriate forum, maybe LinkedIn?
With a few rare and sometimes irritating exceptions, most of us who are here have HAD IT with Moneyhell for any number of valid reasons, and this is our group therapy. Much cheaper than paying a shrink.
Basically, you can apply for another job within the company every 18 months. They have severely cut back on any training for which they would have to pay extra or would require you to travel. You are NOT a free agent in the Land of Opportunity, you are a pawn who serves at the will of your leadership, so any plans you make for yourself have the potential to be derailed without notice if they have a different use in mind for you.
My advice to you is to get a mentor at the director+ level to help you navigate on the inside, but always have it in mind to build skills that will serve you across industries, because if you're in the US, the timing of your departure may not be up to you.
Things have changed from 40 years ago.
Learn yes, But be very careful with tuition reimbursement.
Honeywell makes it systematically difficult to get tuition reimbursement these days. Granted they removed the trap “must remain a block two or higher” which caused anyone given a block five rating ( mandated quotas !) to be denied reimbursement. That was just plain fraud. It is still rare in most jobs to graduate on Honeywell’s nickel. The mandatory overtime and high risk of disruption make it a bad bet in Honeywell today.
One caveat .. if you are in Bangalore or China or are a under represented class person the rules are very different. They paid a bunch of people at my site to attend Georgia tech and gave them 4 paid hours a week to do work.. but those newbie engineers are ALL gone because Honeywell cancelled the deal halfway through and now they are stuck in the middle of a degree.
Learn yes. Stay in Honeywell. No way.
Congratulations, you are one of the few who get it. If you want to leave the company that's fine. But choose the right job for you, and wait for the right opportunity. In the meantime, your idea of learning as much as you can while with the company is absolutely correct. I worked there for 40 years and found it to be one of the best training grounds I had ever experienced. They wanted people to cross train and no one wanted to do it, which left an open field for me. I picked and chose what I wanted to learn and gathered experience and knowledge across almost all of their manufactured components while they paid for me to go to school through their tuition reimbursement program.
Got a couple of degrees out of it, and wonder of wonders, the more background I accumulated the more opportunities I was presented with as well as increased pay. I started getting offers form outside because of my broad background and knowledge but by that time I preferred HON because of the increase in opportunities I was presented with, which were highly interesting to me at the time. I finished my career at Hon and have never been sorry for that.
You may take a similar path, but the key is always continue to learn and experience new disciplines and opportunities, which will broaden your resume, making you more attractive to both HON and outside employers you might be interested in working for.
One caution though. Don't job hop and start campaigning for your next job before learning the one you are in, that is the mistake many make and is one of the major reasons HON is in the condition they are in. Learn as much as you can in each job because a new employer may hire you for your resume, but they will expect you to have the knowledge and skills that come with having worked in those areas. If you have that you will have a successful, profitable, and interested career path.
Best of luck to you!
Imagine Santa’s elves going to the isle of misfit toys for career advice? Everyone here was discarded by Honeywell or is very worried they will be discarded.
You have your advise. Take ownership and don’t let this happen to you. How many retirement celebrations did you see even in precovid 2019?
People left after 30 years and not a work was said... discarded.
As a misfit toy my view of Santa is pretty grim indeed. All I see is a loud f-t Dutchman with dozens of elves in black face paint pretending.
There is your career advise.
10-15 years at Honeywell. Ouch! Few would last that long even if they wanted to. Anyone who did spend that amount of time in such a dysfunctional organisation would almost certainly be unemployable.
Just stop with the constant negative Honeywell comments. Some people actually enjoy their careers. Not everyone are pathetic, lazy, useless, never will be's, like you id--ts. We are here for useful insight and advise out of real concern for our futures WITH Honeywell.
Moving laterally in WoneyHell is like trading deck chairs on the Titanic. Might make you feel better in the short term but remember, like the Titanic, there is no long term at WoneyHell. Leave now, under your own power while you still retain your sanity and self-respect.
Move laterally out the door or waste your time in a failing company ... most prefer the former option if they have marketable skills.
Extremely easy to move laterally as long as you are willing to relocate and don’t expect a raise or relocation costs. At the moment it is nearly impossible to get HR to provide me a non minority resume. This should boost your chances.
This minority issue is severe and making it impossible to hire qualified people. Less than 10 percent of engineering resumes I am seeing are well qualified. I am receiving a sample that in no way matches our community profile. Strangely I am seeing no Asian minority resumes which seems impossible for the software jobs I am trying to fill in my location.