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Taking someone else's credit

Someone here reminded me of a situation when I had just started working at Oracle. I worked for a long time on a project and made the best effort to finish it, and then a colleague took all the credit nonchalantly. I was in total disbelief and I was very angry, but I managed to avoid making an emotional scene. What is the best way to react to these things without risking of looking unprofessional?

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This is the way it seems to work everywhere. I didn't realize that. There were situations when people around me reacted bizarre when I said I had done something and it makes me wonder now if they had been told someone else did the work on that.

In the last situation I was in, it was very definitely what happened. Then, there was someone else I knew who the manager suggested they work from home for a while. They told the people around them, that they were not doing well and needed to be at home for a while, while they were doing ALL of the work and someone else being given all the credit. They were saying that the person getting the credit was so kind and helping out the person who was home by doing their work, when really it was the complete opposite. That project completely failed, the person at home eventually figured out what was going on and left. No one else had any idea what to do with the project and it was never finished.

If you are looking at this from the support side. Don't be pi---d off at the engineers. It's the management that is screwing things up. That project didn't need to fail, there were people who could have finished the work. It's such a disaster.

I have had support people be pi---d at me, as if I am the problem. I still wonder what they were told.

I looked up my old manager's patents. He's got like 20 patents. Two of them are mine. My ideas and my code, and he took credit for that and lied.

Seriously, how can you possibly expect a company that has managers that regularly lie, cheat and steal to move up the ladder to succeed in the long run. Top heavy and full of liars and scumbags.

There is no way this can continue indefinitely. There are too many of them and when they move up on the backs of other people's work, it just diverts Oracle's resources to the wrong people. The good and talented people leave and the rats now run the company.

Oracle is a waste of your time.

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Post ID: @vxwp+1ayRnUbG

This is "The Way" and within OMCS specifically, PK endorsed this kind of behavior if not encouraged it if it suited his rise to the top or allowed him to stand on another person's shoulder to reap the financial benefit. Then he would pass around the war chest to his "chosen ones". He's just another 'mini-me' of Clay. Not surprised that PK is still around but guess with Clay's publicity (court filing) for ORCL not surprised either that PK has remained hidden in plain sight.

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Post ID: @smyx+1ayRnUbG

I gotta say one other thing. You are not unprofessional if you get upset. They are unprofessional and even non–professional, doing what they do.

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Post ID: @1mhu+1ayRnUbG

You can't protect your work by making it complicated. They don't care, if it looks good when it is demo'd that's all that matters to them. They are not thinking about actually, really taking over your code. They don't care about the form of the code. This will not help you. The corrupt people at Oracle are looking for a quick win, long term is not important. After they take credit for your work, they will move to something else and claim they did that. Management above is too stupid to know how hard it is to do anything. They will believe anyone.

If you are actually in the demo where someone is saying they did the work, you might ask them some technical questions about how they did something. That might help, but it might just make them angry.

Frauds are really mentally ill people. Hard to know what someone like that will do.

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Post ID: @1bow+1ayRnUbG

Just to be sure, you want to know how deep the lies go.

Bring it up to your manager, if they don't care or do nothing, go over his/her head to the guy above, if they don't care, go over them to the guy above or go to HR and see what they say.

If you don't get any reasonable response, then you need to leave the company. If they are all in it together, then you are really screwed at this point.

Or you could just leave to start with and save time that way. Oracle is corrupt. Manager might have told the guy to take credit for it to see what you will do.

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Post ID: @1rha+1ayRnUbG

Best advice? Say nothing, do nothing. Just leave. Anything you say or do, except for nothing, WILL repercussions and bad ones. Frauds do not like to be challenged and will strike back with lethal force. but get too upset, remember, it was YOUR work and YOUR vision. They cannot duplicate that. Theft is all they have and I am sure there is more great work to come from you. Don't get bent out of shape, just move on. you will NEVER win that battle.

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Post ID: @1tmg+1ayRnUbG

When you are working in a project, keep project hooks and pits . Write complex code that no one understands. Don't do formatting and keep your functions to minimum 300–500 lines. NO one will take that project and put their signature. If you don't get any credits, throw the cr–p on your colleague and move on. Let him sit and understand the code and try to rewrite.

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Post ID: @1trh+1ayRnUbG

My old manager and his new pet did that. I got far away from both of them and no longer talk to either and neither could ever get hired by anywhere besides Walmart.

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Post ID: @1wir+1ayRnUbG
What is the best way to react to these things without risking of looking unprofessional?

find a job in a different company. Seriously, if you are at oracle then that's the only way. Anything else will get you labeled as an oracle malcontent

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