Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

How many times have you felt favoritism on your own skin?

And in general, how did you deal with favoritism in this company?
Of course, this is not something that is characteristic only for this company, but here it happens more and more often that some people have special treatment while everyone else gets pushed aside.
Due to favoritism, I was not involved in a project I really wanted to work on. Although I was more qualified, it meant nothing. What could I do? Unfortunately, nothing.

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If the black dots are blaming the white dots for something, then why are there more brown dots than white dots?

Both sentences combined illustrate little or no logic.

However, if the OP was concerned about other dots, that was not made clear.

Quite a confusion. All those dots. I sure hope we can all just get along.

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Post ID: @3old+1b02S9vB

Now I'm even more confused. The OP was certainly not talking about Chuck showing favoritism, right?

And middle management is certainly NOT a bunch of Chucks, right?

So, who is showing favoritism?

I heard that there are fewer yellow dots than brown dots, in management, at Cisco, is that true?

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Post ID: @3tsb+1b02S9vB

The Cisco org chart looks like a color spectrum that goes from brown and yellow mix at the bottom to white at the top with a few black dots here and there.

Even most of the Indians get lighter towards the top.

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Post ID: @3buy+1b02S9vB

I'm confused.

The majority of Cisco Management is not Caucasian, Right?

So, whose skin are the managers favoring?

Not being rude, just confused.

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Post ID: @2puv+1b02S9vB

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If you are from a village and it's in india you probably don't deserve a promo or what you are being paid. I have never heard one customer say "WOW! That off shoring is really giving me quality engineers that I can use as trusted advisors". Never, ever has anyone said this to anyone I know of.

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Post ID: @2lvw+1b02S9vB

Cisco Management don't care, as long as the manager don't get LR'd next quarter. Every quarter they hire more schmucks, and every quarter they lay off more poor saps.

It didn't used to be this way.

I remember management of the old , they used to do the right thing and someone would say, what if you get laid off? Their reply was, if it's good for the company.

Now things have changed, management takes kickbacks from recruiter, is not transparent to team, lies to upper management about quality, and just plain looking out for number one.

Not much of a team leader there.

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Post ID: @2qyi+1b02S9vB
This sucks! We should be judged by our work not our skin color.

And POC have been saying that for decades. And women have been saying they should be judged by their work and not what's missing from between their legs. What rock did you finally climb out from under?

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Post ID: @1zvb+1b02S9vB
The real problem with it, apart from obvious: missing promotions and pay increases

What the he-l are those? I've been on teams where no one received either for years at a time. Over the 15 yrs I've been at Cisco, I can count the # of people who've received promotions without having to switch teams and/or jobs on one hand. There's been a handful of occasions where a team lead left the team and someone on the team got that promotion and then there was a backfill at the lower level position, but that's as rare as promoting without someone leaving.

The only way to promote is switch teams or quit and come back.

As to pay increases, I never heard of those either, but that's simply because no one discusses pay or even job grade on almost every team I've been on. There was one or two teams were we knew everyone's job grade, but not pay.

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Post ID: @1vca+1b02S9vB

This sucks! We should be judged by our work not our skin color.

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Post ID: @1wws+1b02S9vB

A handful of project managers and leads meet over a few weeks, and hand out assignments to us ... almost always the same routines and lineup. Very little say in who gets to work on what. No transparency in the decisions. Six years now.

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Post ID: @1dfz+1b02S9vB

I've been experiencing it since I joined the company - there was a reorg just a few months after I joined and I got a different manager. At first I wasn't sure what was going on. I thought I'm a bit paranoid and seeing things. After some time, I figured it is not me, there is obvious favoritism.

The real problem with it, apart from obvious: missing promotions and pay increases - is that by not being included in such projects, leaves you without important experience that you need to show on a job interview when you decide to leave this environment. You have literally nothing to show. You can learn about new technologies all you like, but without real world use of that knowledge, it doesn't mean much in job interviews. That is why it is of utmost importance to leave the company as soon as possible. The longer you stay, the harder it will be to find a new job !

How do I deal with it ? Terribly. I became a self-loathing emotional wreck with questionable state of mental health.

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Post ID: @vbd+1b02S9vB

Yep. If u are not from the same village as your manager don't ask for promotion.

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