Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

How the mandatory 8-10% NSI/PIP changes XOM going forward:

In the past, all of us know we can look forward to a stable career with EM, and slowly grow our technical expertise. I still felt married to EM despite the average ranking. Many of us know we are not the top quintile and will never be a manager. But before 2020, this was not a bad place to grow a long-term career, regardless. Because -

Slowly but surely, we knew we would build expertise and become a subject matter expert in our respective areas, be it infrastructure, risk management, or applications.
We forged real friendships and trust with many colleagues in our offices and around the world, some of whom we had never met and who were of a different skin color, culture or opposite time zones, or a lot older or younger than us.
We looked forward to slowly building up a good sum of retirement money. Yes we always knew EM didn't pay like the tech companies, but it paid enough especially if we project the stability out to retirement at 60, and we believed we traded money with work life balance.

We had stability that allowed us to take care of our family. We all took pride in learning opportunities, in our safety controls that allow us to act with integrity.

I wrote in the past tense because that's past.

We trusted in the stability, although there were opportunity costs but we decided it was worth it. Quickly, all that changed in 2020, with the sudden 8-10% NSI and PIP, the layoffs in Australia, Europe, Canada and Singapore, and so much rumors about HW3 and further job cuts. Before 2020, none of us thought we were always one rank cycle away from being out of job. Today, this is true for the vast majority of us, except maybe the hi-pos and Outstanding with Distinction people.

When management talked about "we know we have lost the trust of the people", there is always a implicit BUT in their speech. They always sounded like they know have lost the trust, BUT they are also one pay increment, or one 401k restoration, or one LinkedIn Stephen Covey's Trust training, away from restoring all the trust. They always sounded like we are kids throwing tantrum but would be pacified with candies.

But I want to tell management that the trust lost is so, so fundamental, and the worker bees all know that.

The crux of the issue is not the pay freeze because the company was in crisis. We are NOT selfish people who insisted on increments in bad times; I remembered when the COVID pandemic and NSI announcement first broke out, many people were asking in the forums, why wasn't the company considering cutting our pay and saving jobs? Those conversations in times of crisis made me so proud of being a part of EM and EMIT. We were asking for pay cuts to save other people's jobs, that's who we were!

As long as there is a mandatory 8-10% NSI - PIP - PIL, the management cannot, SIMPLY CANNOT, tout a long term career or growth opportunities. Because these are fundamentally opposite and contradictory.

Because:
We can no longer slowly but surely build expertise and become a subject matter expert in our respective areas. Every cycle is a hustle cycle. Every cycle we need to be highly visible, show some projects, show some step-ups. The technical folks, the young developers, they cannot think, I'll take 3-5 years to grow my technical expertise, take part in projects, learn from the tech leads. Because they will fear that by year 2, they could already be ranked NSI if they were not visible. But if everyone only focus on high visibility work, we would all only ever become generalists like our own managers. How do we build technical depth if the system doesn't allow us to focus on quietly building our T-shape expertise? Young people are not stupid. They know if they only have a few years to build their technical expertise before the younger ones catch up

  • We find it harder to be real friends and build trust with many colleagues, especially in other places in the world. Everyone is a competitor, especially people from lower cost countries. What is at stake is no longer only a ranking number, which many of us could care less about. What is at stake is our job that we can easily lose, and it impacts our family as well.

We now know that the longer we stay, the more disadvantaged we'd be. Firstly, the longer we stay, the higher the possibility of being placed in NSI bucket. It is only logical statistically - the older we get and the higher our CL, the more competitive it is in the rank pool, especially if we are ranked as individual contributors. Also, many of us beyond our 40s know there have been ups and downs in our careers, our family and personal lives. Most of us had encountered personal issues that affect our performance at our work, but this company used to offer the stability that allowed us the leeway to bounce back. Now, well, that is gone. We are one health or family crisis away from losing our job.

There is no longer work life balance for many of us. I found myself unable to care much about my personal life anymore. I had to onboard and hand-hold 2.5 new people in their work since late last year while the layoffs and high attrition are taking place, while doing my own job. EMIT management said they have already stopped doing some work. But is anyone brave enough to claim these as achievements in next year's PDS form... what they stopped doing? Would these brave souls be ranked well?
Keeping the lights on has been so draining the past 6 months. I wonder whether the management knows this. My biggest achievement this year has been that I onboarded 2 brand new people, when people with 20+ years of experiences were suddenly laid off. I've also worked 50+ hours every week for couple of months to help cover the work of these brand new people and myself. Might I put this on my PDS to save me from being ranked NSI? Oh but keeping the lights on is not good enough.. we need visibility... so let's hustle some more. Then more the year after next? And some more... just to try to keep a job that no longer gives me any stability.
Most of us, if we are honest, don't feel married to EMIT anymore. If we were to imagine how we would one day leave this company, few of us would think we'd retire in 20-30 years' time.

Most of us likely realise we'd either get PIP'd or impacted by a HW3 type of program, or forced layoff when we are in our late 40s or early 50s, which is the worst time in life to be out of a job. We saw that happen to many of our colleagues recently. When we read about the Cold War or the Great Depression, we learn that a few years of hardship can change the mindset of entire generations of people who lived through those times. I muse that in EM, one year of bad HR policy has changed so much for us.

by
| 7018 views | | 26 replies (last ) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1bKrHAEd

26 replies (most recent on top)

Exxon has always used the "stick" not the "carrot" to manage employees.

Other energy companies have used the "carrot" in economic downturns. That is why Shell, BP, Total, and Chevron have offered voluntary enhanced retirement packages to reduce headcount (i.e. the carrot).

Exxon continues to use the outdated decision provided by legacy CEO's (i.e. WE DO NOT PAY PEOPLE TO LEAVE THIS CORPORATION.) This is why we will continue to NSI 8-10% of white collar workers each year and label each as a poor performers.

Headcount in high cost countries such as Singapore, US, and EU needs to continue to be offshored to lower cost countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Malaysia, India, Austria, and Hungary.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @cqxb+1bKrHAEd

It seems fixing the morale will take more effort than management is willing to expend.

People I thought were high potential are quitting this company in droves. I know that many of my colleagues are actively seeking new jobs rather that stay just to be motivated daily by the fear of a bad ranking.

That long winded rant only spoke about being one ranking away from getting fired. It neglected to mention being just one job offer away from leaving by choice.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ccmz+1bKrHAEd

@1fee : you are a good candidate to be an Exxonmobil Manager. You can only understand /read a PowerPoint with few bullet points without a lof of words.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2vre+1bKrHAEd

@2nim+1bKrHAEd

I’m the person who wrote this. But I didn’t post this. It was posted by someone else who took my reply from another thread. I truly regret this tiresome rant, because it’s embarrassingly TL;DR... Will have to ask my supervisor for a PIP for the verbiage

That said, I hadn’t realised (REALISED with an S) that this board is only for Americans, and the rest of the global EM workforce are trolls. I sincerely apologise (with an s) and now disappear into my low cost corner in the world. Americans will now rule all conversations, as usual.

May I end my apology with “MAGA!”? Is this an appropriate expression of deference to your superiority, or a faux pas?

Hahaha… I’m sorry to my US friends… can’t help poking fun, but you all know you will always be our overlords :D (I checked that this smiley is spelt/ spelled correctly)

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2kmx+1bKrHAEd

OP uses British/Aussie/Indian spelling and grammar.
He/She is a troll.
Proof: realise instead of realize.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2nim+1bKrHAEd

@1chg+1bKrHAEd

LOL. If you think emit is the problem with this company, you are clearly NSI. I think we need to PIP more people like you.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2hyp+1bKrHAEd

Always surprised so many are brainwashed and live in the illusion created by our genius management. Company has one and only one goal:

Make money!!!!

Everything else are just sugar coats that makes the money printing machine less ugly.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2nox+1bKrHAEd

This person writes very long copy. I got tired in the middle and stopped reading. Cam somebody summarize it for me?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1fee+1bKrHAEd

How many syllables to say - 'I'm outta here'.
Hope that was the thought.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1fcv+1bKrHAEd

EMIT is not impressive. Way overpaid for very little value add. The fact that they all cling to their jobs despite pay freeze and 401k cut essentially proves that.

The fact that they prefer a salary cut and job preservation proves how overpaid they are for their level of skills. Just more barnacles in the boat. Let's PIP till the boat starts going at a fair speed again.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1chg+1bKrHAEd

@1jsz+1bKrHAEd

The company does probably have “professional” help like McKinsey. And the geniuses at McKinsey are #1 at telling you to fire people. EM supervisors seem like humans compared to those ghouls.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1yxt+1bKrHAEd

OP, very well expressed on behalf of many EM employees (past and present) and in the Far East as well. We were once proud to work in EM and then come 2020, all the great things about EM (job stability, technically strong company, an industry leader, many opportunities for employees career development, etc……) had all vanished into thin air all of a sudden.

For an ex-employee who had worked his whole working life with EM (40+ years), the Company had been my second “home” and my colleagues, my extended family members, it had been a very sad day. It felt like, one has been kicked out of the “family”. Is the current environment going to be part of the new organisation culture, it’s very toxic and makes it very difficult for the current employees to concentrate and doing their best and not worrying about the future? How to attract the best people into the Company with such culture, which was not a problem in the past?

The Company need Professional help, if the Management recognises the issues and want to “Make ExxonMobil Great Again”. I can only share my feelings (as well as many of us) on this poor state of affairs in the Company.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1jsz+1bKrHAEd

I whole-heartedly agree. The culture has turned into a “watch your back”, “Am I ever doing enough?” feeling, all while knowing you’re working to stay, not working to earn more, even with a promotion or job title change. It’s a weakest link mentality now, where there used to be opportunity move up and earn more. If it weren’t for the benefits, it’d be an easy choice.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1hvf+1bKrHAEd

I'd try to compose as lengthy an analysis, but it is late on Friday now.
I'm not two sheets, but short of breath after this week of work.

The idea that continuity of professional or technical knowledge is critical for the success of a business sounds like some kind of woke propaganda.
There must be a separation of the doers and the beneficiaries.
If you are a doer it is difficult to connect constant change with transfer of tradition.
If you are the beneficiary, tradition has only ornamental meaning. But there must be constant change, flowing into the pocket.
Tradition - the transfer of knowledge, etc. is overrated.
Change is inevitable for the system to hold.

Got that out. Longer than I'd hoped.
Time to huff a bit-o-benzene and hit the sack.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1ezr+1bKrHAEd

Probably the best post I have seen on this site. It really resonated with me. I am a pretty new hire in engineering and went from loving each day (even though I often worked extra) to being constantly worried about how unstable everything is now that we have the PIP targets. All my intrinsic motivation for being a technical contributor that is slowly honing my craft and developing a deep competency has been gobbled up by this PIP environment. The days are empty and miserable now that I feel like I can no longer build out towards a technical career path. I don't want to be a manager personally... it's just not inline with my interests. I received an excellent rating but it does not mean a lot since I can fall to NSI in the span of a year based on what work I get assigned (happened to a friend). I am likely going to leave but I genuinely hope they turn this around for the friends I work with.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1sdn+1bKrHAEd

We all buy in to con jobs sometimes.
Can go on for years, decades, millennia.
And then, that gusher comes in and whoee.
We start over again.

And HR got nothing to do with it.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @col+1bKrHAEd

Understand, OP, you are coming from the EMIT perspective.
It is painful to say, but the cuts in EMIT in US will be closer to 30-40% in next couple years.
Simply not part of the company core and can be sourced out all over.

The company core.
I didn't coin that phrase - that comes from Irving (Dallas).
And that core used to be engineering, research and unlocking that last special carbon chain to lube tomorrow forever.
But even that is no longer the core.

The core now is commodity expertise - similar to wheat, copper, pork bellies.
It is logistics and marketing.
It is not even discovery.
It's sugar and cotton.
And those industries don't have a pleasant history.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @agp+1bKrHAEd

we are nothing but an employee number to em and no one at the top cares about anyone but themselves and the dividend
its really shameful and sad what em's leadership (or lack thereif) has become

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @dsb+1bKrHAEd

Another whiner. How much time have you spent on this? Grow up.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @cig+1bKrHAEd

Very well written. My ranking fell after a family situation even though I never fell behind in my work. You see I worked throughout the night to respond/action emails. I maybe slept 3 hours a night. My friend. Well, her spouse took his life. She couldn’t focus but, she showed up at work everyday. She was told to keep her personal life/problems out of the workplace. Yet, she was PIP’d while her colleagues worked from home because the nanny didn’t show. When those colleagues did show up at the office, they spent hours at the gym, taking walks or getting Froyo. They are still active employees. Yes, you are one crisis away from being shown the door. Your Supervisor/ Manager is not your friend…trust no one. Good Luck.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ndp+1bKrHAEd

In the future, we all knew this was gig work.
Right?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @vyx+1bKrHAEd

Well said, but remember that the hi-pos ARE the Outstanding with Distinction. Even in the not so good good old times, the upper third and the upper part of the middle third we’re reserved for pets.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @enm+1bKrHAEd

Thanks for the balanced commentary. In the end we are all humans trying to make a living

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @kmb+1bKrHAEd

How not to write succinctly 101.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @gln+1bKrHAEd

Very well written. I am fortunate to be at the top each year but let me concur that everyyear it takes an ever more monumental effort. 60 hours each week and constant pressure. I do the same work as used to be assigned to someone who would have been 2 CL higher just 10 years ago.

I know I am not alone and it isn’t sustainable. I am exhausted and also contemplating the future… it’s no way to live your life.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @wwi+1bKrHAEd

As someone that has always been ranked in the top 1-2 quintiles, I never thought about the point you made that I may be one family emergency or personal emergency away from being in the bottom. That is really eye opening. I’m lucky I haven’t had to deal with a situation like that, but it’s so plausible. I appreciate you sharing that point of view, it’s eye opening.
It’s a long read, but one of the better posts I’ve seen on this forum.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @mht+1bKrHAEd

Post a reply

: