The new mask policy is interesting. You only have to wear a mask if you have not had a vaccine but there is no requirement for proof of vaccine. There is no way to ensure that this is followed. I think most people have now seen how this is working and it is a joke. This is a health and safety issue. Negligence?
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If masks are not good at all, how do you feel to know you need a surgery, but the surgeon doesn't agree to wear the mask?
Eat you veggies - you’ll be ok. Stop listening to mainstream media.
Maybe the other choice is to not let fear get the better of us and dictate our behaviors?
First there was widespread panic about how deadly covid was going to be, then how quickly it might spread, then over "long term health impacts". This is typical human misunderstanding of actual risks, especially those from factors we can't control or directly view, then over-reacting. Not saying that there aren't issues to be concerned about, just that it seems that we're over-reacting.
I really wish that we'd dedicated the same level of across the effort to board effort to address other health issue such as smoking, mental health, & "medical misadventures" (deaths due to wrongs meds, incorrect meds, wrong or botch procedures are a lot higher than most woudl expect. look it up)
BTW CDC guidance states clearly that companies can set their own mask policies. Nothing to prevent Ford doing this.
This policy is a joke. Look at the current spike in infections in the UK as they are having a summer wave. Definitely not seasonal yet. The Delta variants and others to come are real. This is not a flu. It is not a normal respiratory disease. It can get to just about all of your organs and long term problems for many months. It is not all about death. But that is all we are told. So we think that because the death rate is low we are ok. People need to be candid about facts. The mRNA vaccines are better than the rest, but they are a new technology and still only emergency approved BUT I think most sane and rational people understand that getting a vaccine is better than not. BUT I agree you can't force people. SO what to do at work? MASKS FOR EVERYONE! NO OTHER CHOICE.
Thanks for your input, Karen.
That’s an easy one , 21rn….all the 1ceq types.
It was interesting. On Monday and Tuesday everyone had their mask off.
Today, Wednesday several individuals had their masks on.
We talk to each other and everyone know who and was not vaccinated. My question is who turned these people in?
CDC says that even the people who got sick with Covid-19 should get the shots. Really? Do you truly think that having a shot "faking" the virus is better than having the "real deal" for several days?
We also know for sure that younger people are pretty much shielded from the worst effects of the disease. It is more probable for the young people to have an anaphylaxis shock, or a blood clot or develop myocarditis and pericarditis (all those are side effects of the Covid-19 vaccines) than to die from the actual disease, but the government is pushing for 12 years and older to get the shots. Why? We know already that the vaccines DO NOT PREVENT catching the disease or spreading it around. So again, why vaccinate the young people when they are already asymptomatic?
BTW, the vaccines are approved for emergency use only. No Covid-19 vaccine has been approved by the FDA yet after millions of shots. Why?
Unless you can actually answer all those questions with truths, please refrain your judgement because you don't know me, and respect my decisions as much as I respect yours. I am not against vaccinations per se, I just want my questions answered first. It is called an "informed decision".
Thanks
I have been at work without a mask on, while "sick" managing with OTC stuff. I'm sure you'll be fine, if not, it's survival of the fittest.
Send you to medical to have what checked, if you have covid or if you were vaccinated? I thought HIPAA protects out private medical information? Not sure I would trust my employer's medical staff more than my own doctor regarding anything to do with my own health.
@1ceq+1bNL2jjG - I think your level of perceived risk vs that perceived by those who choose not to get vaccinated might not line up. I just checked the on wikipedia for total number of cases and total deaths in Michigan so far and they say that if someone were to catch covid they still have a 97.8% chance of surviving. So far slightly less than 900k out of (very roughly) 10 million in Michigan have caught it over the last 16 months, only about 9% of the population have had it bad enough to get it confirmed. So 91% chance of avoiding it or having a case mild enough it's not worth having it confirmed. That's ~0.2% chance of death (so far)... 1 in 500 aren't exactly odds that everyone will panic over. Lifetime odds of dying in a vehicle wreck are 1 in 107, but that doesn't stop huge numbers of people from driving like complete id--ts nor do we consider it an unduly risky activity.
Not exactly the worst odds in the world. Considering the number of people still smoking in the modern age with all the well known statistics around that it's no surprise that
We were told they would not challenge vaccination status locally but if they were suspicious ( and you know who would plant the idea ) they can send you to Medical for confirmation.
Vaccinated, but I really don't want to even risk getting a minor version and end up in some nightmare long-haul symptom situation.
This policy is fair. If you are vaccinated like I am, I believe the science and am protected from severe effects of Covid. If my coworkers are d-mb enough not to get a vax and don’t wear masks and die, I really honestly don’t care. All the non vaccinated/non maskers will do is just infect the people who are not vaccinated so who cares? Not I.
If the vax works to protect you from covid, then it doesn't make a difference if either of you (or both) wear a mask. If the vax doesn't convey protection how much benefit is a mask actually going to be?
Got you.
@nsw+1bNL2jjG. Awe, you got your feelings hurt!!! Poor baby. I don't know how you are going to survive next winter when flu season comes back. Conveniently, for people like you the flu was nearly non-existent this past winter. Well, that is what the great CDC reported. Not sure how you will survive next winter. And keep talking about the CDC - they haven't lied once over the past 18 months! They got a great record that you should believe in. You should also start using the words "data" and "science" in your responses. Who can argue with you then???? Nobody should be allowed to question you, the CDC, data, or science. I hope Ford keeps you in the upcoming purge. That way, the race to the bottom for Ford Motor Company will happen even faster!
The CDC agreed to the removal of masks too soon. Should have been the carrot to get above 75%.
And for the record, been back at work since middle of April.
Only loser is you dude!
OP - I am sure you are staying home all the time living in your bubble world!! Never grocery shopping . Never going to stores. Never going to movies, restaurants, events, and more.
No. I'm pretty sure you are leaving your house. Just another loser Ford employee who doesn't want to work and will search for any excuse to not have to go into the office. Even my local government offices and library finally opened. Never thought I would see the day that government offices are more efficient than a private company. But then I never thought Ford would turn into a social activist company and deliver pathetic quality products either!
I identify as vaccinated. No mask required.