Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Email a damn disaster... still

OK. This no longer funny. Email back up yesterday? Check. Gone now?! Check check.

What a friggin, embarrassing, cluster fu...

This is even beyond embarrassing. What's next? Denial? Nothing to see here. Move along now.

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Actually it is funny. Competitors are having a field day with this news !!

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Post ID: @6alo+1bOOJG3J

Just when you thought it can't get worse, you won't need the notes/verse calendar anymore, because we are told to schedule meetings via webex, which will also be locking everyone out of joining the calls after 5 min.

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Post ID: @2qte+1bOOJG3J

Can confirm.

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Post ID: @2cdh+1bOOJG3J

Bruh, the old-timers are upset because all they do is email and go to meetings and make spreadsheets, so they are upset because they don’t know how to adapt. The rest of us actual contributors are still getting work done because we use slack and don’t whine when something is broken because we DO know how to adapt.

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Post ID: @2lps+1bOOJG3J

Don't send emails. Problem solved !!

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Post ID: @2dog+1bOOJG3J

From urban dictionary - Bruh:
1 Word you say when someone says something stupid.

So in context, you would say "Bruh", when someone says "Bruh". And the cycle continues ad infinitum

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Post ID: @1mxb+1bOOJG3J

Bruh, SMH at this email thing and I can't work. I just called my mother to take me out to buy some new shoes.

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Post ID: @1goa+1bOOJG3J

Bruh the calendar doesn't work without the stupid email client

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Post ID: @1hor+1bOOJG3J

Can confirm

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Post ID: @1kio+1bOOJG3J

You shoemaker's kids are so cute.

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Post ID: @1cbw+1bOOJG3J

I do not use Notes because it is truly hideous. Every single UI decision that was ever made on that product was made to enrage users. It's not just bad, it's almost deliberately bad.

That means that I do use Verse. (Verse is not a thing of beauty either; it's just a bit better than Notes. I particularly loath those balloons with random people I have recently had communication with. Yes, I do collapse that section. I simply mention this because that is such a horrible design element.) At any rate, I now do get email! What I dread every day is the point where Verse decides that it better re-authenticate. At best it creates whole new browser tabs and, within a tab, it creates a whole new stack of visited pages. After that, it gets worse because it obviously has real problems with the SAML protocol. That means, it sometimes just doesn't work. You have to ki-l the browser tabs for mail and calendar and start a new tab. And, of course, you often have to delete cookies. What a piece of junk. (But better than Notes.)

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Post ID: @1pdg+1bOOJG3J

“ Ex: you need to explain why you can’t use OpenOffice vs buying MS Office, and if approved, you need to search for a license that was freed-up from someone and is available. No available license = no purchase approval.”

False. We all have the full MS suite now. Simply download from Mac ibm app

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Post ID: @1gjj+1bOOJG3J

The last paragraph in the referenced Linkedin article

I am curious what IBM will do, because they are also affected by the discontinuation of their own infrastructure. They are running about 400,000 mailboxes on it. But they have surely already decided, now that they have no ties to their former product anymore. Guess what they will do, now that they can take an objective rather than a political decision?
(IBM survival lesson as an employee: never give bad news upstream.. unless already solved.. who needs email these days anyways ... haha .. like the end of printing)

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Post ID: @1mxr+1bOOJG3J

The strategy may be to sue HCL for not providing contracted services. There really isn't much left except for an aggressive legal department.

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Post ID: @1ivj+1bOOJG3J

@1gtr+1bOOJG3J blaming it on the legacy IBMers shows you really have no clue about this issue and are prejudice against the legacy crowd. Comments like yours make you and your generation look even d-mber.

It’s always been about IBM corporate management avoiding 3rd party license costs wherever they can - MSFT especially but many others too. There are many programs in place to limit, track and recycle licenses that must be checked as part of the approval and justification process before any new one can be purchased. Ex: you need to explain why you can’t use OpenOffice vs buying MS Office, and if approved, you need to search for a license that was freed-up from someone and is available. No available license = no purchase approval.

For the record, many IBMers are given “client laptops” which have all the latest email tools and other SW installed so they can communicate with their client seamlessly, and they end up using these almost exclusively, saving the IBM laptop for W3 type tasks only. So that voids your “too scared” statements. Maybe get your facts straight next time before posting!? It will serve you well wherever you end up.

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Post ID: @1mhv+1bOOJG3J

Interesting reading: this was posted on August 2019...
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ibm-hcl-shutting-down-cloud-notesverse-domino-bernd-vellguth

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Post ID: @1gtr+1bOOJG3J

I bet HCL isn't d-mb enough to use Lotus Notes as their email.

Thanks to all the legacy IBMers who are too scared to use the industry-standard email system 99.9999% of the rest of the corporate world used.

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Post ID: @1bhd+1bOOJG3J
still use cc:Mail

Lotus Notes was rated marginally better than cc:Mail back in 1992.

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Post ID: @1nam+1bOOJG3J

Bruh, I still use cc:Mail.

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Post ID: @vuq+1bOOJG3J

Bruh.. you still use email?

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Post ID: @vbr+1bOOJG3J

If the recommended upgradation doesn’t fix the issue then we will revert to previous level by performing a downgradation to the once prior stable release.

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Post ID: @eda+1bOOJG3J

The only email I get is from useless teams trying to get me to do their jobs.
“Action Required” translated means “we have no clue”

Most the tools never worked and they’ve had years to fix/replace them but never did.

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Post ID: @hgv+1bOOJG3J

Please bear with us Mr. sir...we are very much doing the needful.

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Post ID: @xuw+1bOOJG3J

I'll bet no HCL locations are having any troubles with whatever email solution they are using.

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