How many of us are right around 50 years with more than 15 years of service on the PIP/PIL list?
20 replies (most recent on top)
@3iun+1bYa9NHG
Not true. I’m 53 and asked. Was told no way.
@3iun+1bYa9NHG Please elaborate on the situation of you are describing.
50 is the new 55 The Company will still settle with you discreetly.
Stop acting as if all "experienced hires" are fantastic. They are a mixed bag and I would say in in my experience, they were 50/50. Half were very good, technically and made useful contributions straight away. The other half were useless bullsh!tters - it was obvious how they impressed their interviewers and clear that they were destined for management (Section Head or higher).
Hey @1roq+1bYa9NHG,
Back when MTV was just music videos it was great. These days with all the reality BS that the newer f’d up generation worships, it’s s#!t
New hires be damned… the “best and brightest” don’t want to work for XOM. XOM is better off with experienced hires who can train their “HIPO” 0 relevant experience boss. On that not HA! If you can convince the ones worth a darn to come the mothership. Fat chance.
Lol imagine thinking Gen X is relevant at all. Go back to watching MTV
We are Generation X and most of us have had our a-s kicked by the boot while caring for said "Boomers" AND all of you Gen Y & Gen Z folks.
As always, we will get back up, dust ourselves off and move on. At one point we too were young. Keep thst in mind. Nice attempt to agitate. Keep trying and good luck.
Remember you are working for the same company that said it was excluding part time employees from layoffs and still laid off part timers. Laid of those on maternity leave, and treated so called of their greatest assets (people) extremely poorly. You know what you can expect from this company.
8%; pro rata with rest of population to avoid age discrimination suit
Maybe all of you 50-somethings should just pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps. That’s what you’ve been telling everyone else for the past 20 years, so follow your own advice (for once).
I haven't been impressed with new hire Non-Petro engineers for about 10 years.
I think the company simply can't compete in several engineering areas with other more future-looking companies. Even applies for geologists and chemists.
And it can't be getting any better now.
Petroleum engineers - probably EM can still recruit the best graduates.
Even though there aren't many of them being produced anymore.
The 'best' petroleum engineering grad today is probably not the 'brightest'.
Any young employee with some traces of brain present would figure out that the bad guy here is the company, who in order to break the law and get rid of expensive, older employees sacrifies a bunch of younger people. But I guess it’s easier to call experienced workers “useless”; maybe you should ask yourselves why is the industry willing to pay much more for experience. Do you think it’s just because of their tender hearts or particular love for boomers ? Your lack of respect for anybody who is not in the same situation as you shows how narrow and mean your mind is, and will come back to bite you big time.
@uej+1bYa9NHG
I just can’t wait for you, arrogant little pr!ck, to get to your late 40’s and get the treatment that the company now reserves for older workers. I’ll see you squirm and complain how the promises made to you were broken and how all the recruiters have gone mad and want only eighteen year olds with twenty years of experience.
Just wait for it, it’s coming right to you, and get ready for younger obnoxious, spoiled brats to insult you. Maybe you’ll understand then why the law tries to protect NREs, not that it actually stops predators like EM.
Due to the governments involvement in attempting to 'protect' older useless employees from being fired - age discrimination - they have to fire younger employees to go along with them to show no bias to old age.
As usual, boomers have rigged the system against younger people. First generation leaving less for their offspring - or the few they had anyway.
Does have to be 50 or can it be less than 50 if you have more than 50 years relevant experience in your principle field?
I am 49, I would litigate.
All of you.
This is why we take new hires and PIP them. Nothing personal, they’re merely collateral for getting rid of the 50’s folks.
I don't know the answer, but a lawer just asked the same question.
Just takes one litigant to crack open all the statistics.