Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Anyone put on pip should leave them immediately

We need to give management a message.
If you are put on PIP get another job. Leave without notice. It is the only way the culture of fear is going to change. Let management know that they cannot afford to blindly follow HR guidelines and threaten workers.
You will be better off and your manager will have to deal with the consequences.

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Post ID: @OP+1bYoGlsH

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@OP "We need to give management a message." Really? Not like that you won't. For each person who walks out after being PIPed they would evaluate (spin) that as "there's one less person we have to pay severance".
They will never classify anyone who is on a PIP as a regrettable departure.

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Post ID: @5dbq+1bYoGlsH

@OP Leave immediately is pretty risky. A co-worker stormed off in a huff a few years back. Didn't turn out well for him. He was about 10 months without a job. The one he finally found was about 5 to 7 years down the chute on a normal career path.
Start looking for another job immediately and quit without notice when you find one is more sensible.
That said... you should have been looking for another job all along.

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Post ID: @5pjw+1bYoGlsH

Yup. I immediately ramped up my job search and was gone a few weeks after the PIP was passed.

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Post ID: @5svc+1bYoGlsH

Sounds like another Hr troll trying to make their pip quota before they get let go

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Post ID: @2unr+1bYoGlsH

Stick a can in it, Keyboard Tough Guy.

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Post ID: @2scf+1bYoGlsH

Why do the minimum get paid and collect severance and unemployment when you get let go

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Post ID: @1eqq+1bYoGlsH

Easier said than done given the reality of financial obligations and maybe things that tie you down, like a house and relatives that live in town. I totally agree in principle though. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all flip them the bird and exit at this first sign of abuse? No company that treats it's employees this way deserves to succeed.

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Post ID: @1pwp+1bYoGlsH

I tend to agree. As a former Manager I'm well aware of 3 things...zero pay raise for a year, following year best you will do is a mid block 5 (or lower). So maybe 2% in second year if the merit pool is >4%. And then first on the list for RIF. The valuation of your contributions and talent can be skewed by alot of factors out of your control. And what Honeywell doesn't see as value in you, a smaller company would be lucky to have you. The flip side is if you really are a slug, take the message and do something about it.

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