Thread regarding IBM layoffs

why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office

Why Are people so eager to go back to office? There's a question in literally every exec meeting.

I am a young person and still do not want to go back to workplace because it saves massive amount of time and productivity according to ibm is also up.

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Post ID: @OP+1bafaIYZ

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C&CS, CHQ, F&O already said it.

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Post ID: @2jqp+1bafaIYZ

The main reason is their incompetent executives and managers. They know what work they can do from being at home? Nothing. I have barely see executives working on Fridays or even weekdays. My friend in Systems told all the executives take Friday off in systems. So no one is actually doing real work from home. So they are thinking developers are also not able to work just based on their own exp, which is totally wrong.

That could be the reason they want everyone to be in offices sooner.

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Post ID: @1pne+1bafaIYZ

I save at least 25% of wasted time by not being in an office. No motor mouth colleagues that have to talk to me about nonsense. I can work during useless meetings because no one sees me. There is no burning rush to get out of there at quitting time. And I don't need a long lunch break. So all that, plus IBM not having to pay for an office and utilities for me, makes it insane to force me back to an office. So will IBM do the insane thing? Of course.

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Post ID: @1otp+1bafaIYZ

@koy+1bafaIYZ can you name those execs?

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Post ID: @1xsi+1bafaIYZ

For any detailed technical work (e.g. design or programming) any "engagement" with co-workers can destroy hours of work in mere seconds.

For less mentally-challenging tasks, sure go gab all you want by the water cooler.

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Post ID: @1kat+1bafaIYZ

This company is like a Seinfeld episode

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Post ID: @1ztw+1bafaIYZ

I hope we never return to the office. My office is a client site for a client who HATES us. Anyone who’s on the front lines on a big GBS contract knows how common this is. It’s been much better for my mental health to not have a client scream at me every day. I can just cut off my wifi if they start to get on my case about some IBM Sales person who made a promise and failed to deliver or some bu-----t IBM process.

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Post ID: @1och+1bafaIYZ

Bruh, maybe you haven’t been keeping up. They are NOT forcing people to go back into the office. This was stated by several division SVPs already.

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Post ID: @koy+1bafaIYZ

@hwu+1bafaIYZ that's exactly what those d-mb execs are saying.

  • ibm is not a career company anymore, no one who's young actually wants to work here
  • it's better to do laundry during those 100s of meetings that ibmers do than sitting through them which is complete waste of time
  • not to mention cost of food, gas, hours saved in driving

real reasons are lot of middle managers finding their work to be irrelevant and people in power owning real estate along with income tax revenues for states

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Post ID: @qki+1bafaIYZ

@hwu,

The 80's called, they want you back in the office.

People just watch their phones all day in the office or took 20 smoke breaks.
Fun hours, town halls did not help productivity yet were mandatory? (more waste)
The "more engaged" is BS, most worked with teams not even local to their office.

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Post ID: @rpy+1bafaIYZ

The locations where people go into the office are the most engaged locations, engaged resources produce more because they're working, not doing laundry/walking dogs/taking care of kids/ watching Tv 'while working'

Also it's really hard to sell work remotely, you miss the opportunities in the hallways to talk with clients, shape the deals, influence people, etc.

If you're a young person who looks at this as a career and not just a pay check, then it probably is also in your interest to go into the office, because otherwise, your peers who do will get the skills and the promotions over you.

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Post ID: @hwu+1bafaIYZ

Just get a van and sleep in the IBM parking lot. Many of the facilities have showers.

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Post ID: @vbl+1bafaIYZ

Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs

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Post ID: @qzk+1bafaIYZ

Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs

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Post ID: @lus+1bafaIYZ

I mentioned being young because there's a reason given that they want to go back to office because of career counseling blah blah.

Not true, yesterday i did my laundry while wfh and it freed time for other activities

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Post ID: @cra+1bafaIYZ

“Young person” given that should the answer be different????

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Post ID: @kbq+1bafaIYZ

Many of these IBM buildings/campuses were at 25% occupancy before Covid even started. Another example of IBM execs being simply afraid/unable to make any real decisions.

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Post ID: @fvy+1bafaIYZ

Because IBM is lead by id--ts

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Post ID: @uwq+1bafaIYZ

Are _workers_ eager to go back? Personally, I am not. Now, senior execs, on the other other hand... All they see is $$$ flying out the windows of the hundreds of properties\facilities they OWN and operate. If they _leased_ these buildings, their meetings would be spent discussing the possibility of not renewing leases, instead. And, by extension, arguing for more w@h.

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