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How to prove Lawsuit for wrongful termination or discrimination

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Cisco has a very powerful legal department which is virtually impenetrable to an individual.

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Post ID: @1mte+1c7q1mRu

Since Cisco is constantly laying off, you may have a shot. Companies are sued so many times but most are settled out of Court to avoid encouraging others from following suit. Courts are more sympathetic to employees now too against big companies. If you stay up late, you can probably spot legal firm commercials where they can represent you for wrongful terminations and such. You can probably get a free consultation. Doesn't hurt to try.

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Post ID: @1qbc+1c7q1mRu

It's not worth the effort... move on

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Post ID: @atw+1c7q1mRu

Even without "employment at will", the burden of proof is on you. Companies just have to work harder at disguising it where employment is not at will.

Cisco did away with performance reviews and created the "People Deal" to make it easier to get rid of people without documenting poor performance.

And, once they started doing annual "limited restructuring", the need to put someone on a performance improvement plan, or PIP, has gone away. It's easier, and less time consuming to just keep you around until the next LR and pay you a severance than to tell you that you need to improve, keep you a year while they say you're still not improving AND DOCUMENT THAT, and then terminate you. LR's remove all need for documentation of poor performance.

The lawyers go through the LR lists and run the numbers to ensure that there is no obvious block of protected categories, especially AGE. They'll let a few younger people go as sacrifices because they're easy to replace in order to "show" that they didn't target only people over a certain age. AND they call it a "cost savings measure". You're not too old, you're too expensive because your age has resulted in greater experience and therefore greater compensation.

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Post ID: @rdb+1c7q1mRu

Have solid documentation, witnesses, etc. For the less worldly - my manager doesn't like me / isn't nice to me is not discrimination.

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Post ID: @xuv+1c7q1mRu

My (non lawyer) understanding is simple - given "employment at will' is the law, burden of proof is on you

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