I was under the impression(my bad) that I would be safe this time as I got ranked in the 'Excellent' bucket last year. Alas!....NSI its is.(sigh!). But as a breather, I am in advanced stages of the interview process with few tech companies.
But folks! anyone can be in the next PIP/PIL list. Get your a_s outta here ASAP!
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@OP and others - we told you last year that this was going to happen, but hardly anybody believed the stories of good, hard-working 50+ year olds plummeting unexpectedly in the rankings.
A warning to anyone thinking of taking the PIP: (1) you have to convince your supervisor, HR and Law that you will maintain at least a “Good” ranking to pass; (2) it’s going to get harder to maintain a “Good” ranking as thee bottom 8-10% are removed each year; and (3) if you are NI’d again (not just NSI’d), you’re immediately terminated - so you have to stay >20% in the ranking, not just >10% !
Here’s another cynical take on it: managers are looking for their own “checkboxes” for their own “development”. So they decide to NSI an otherwise competent employee, in hopes that they can “coach” them successfully through a PIP, in order to show that they are good people managers themselves. I wouldn’t put it past EM managers to try and pull this kind of scam, and have seen similar situations myself in the past.
Anyone that’s saying Excellent to NSI/PIP in a year can’t happen is either clueless or a company troll. Or both. Happened a lot, especially to older folks. Removing the safety net of a 19 pt max delta in RGP let the company exercise age discrimination and removed any oversight of bad bosses using personal feeling to whack employees they didn’t like. In many cases, tacitly or openly encouraged to by their bosses who needed to collect scalps to meet their quota. Why anyone with half brain would stay in that system or much less enter it, is beyond comprehension
Same here. Moved two levels down to NSI. I had all positive feedback from KOs. They did not identify any performance issues, just that there is a down push on the ranking. Total BS. Guess I will be looking for a new job by next year.
just before the Mobil merger, I knew many high performer-NRE employees asking/begging their bosses to rank them at the bottom so they could get a small retirement cash gift (a year of pay to leave). This process actually allowed some younger folks to rise up in ranking and avoid layoff. It also protected a number of low performing NRE who were not ready to retire. With no goodbye money, the NRE will not volunteer to be ranked at bottom, so millenials and weak performers will be PIP'd. That is the way it should work so keep Pip'n until US MPT headcount is below 14k (over 25 k in 2018). Also cut executives by 50% and lower all job classification by 2 levels.
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I definitely believe the excellent to nsi. I know people that were dropped two levels and some even more all in one ranking meeting.
I don’t believe the “excellent” to “NSI” stories. Completely bogus!!!!
To those “selfless” nre’s, XOM wants 8% headcount reduction, not just 8% NSI, since you guys aren’t leaving you’re not really helping things out.
I told you guys, right now all of you are in a 12-month contract!
Similar position here…. I’ve put it down to change of manager. Nevertheless it’s despicable as despite working relentlessly, I will see little additional material value. I’ve now started looking at other opportunities outside of EM.
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I am NRE and NSI. Given a Performance Counseling Plan instead of PIP. Many people are in this situation and it is saving others who are not NRE. The whole system sucks but at least the 8% NSI can be met without everyone losing their job over it.
Please allow me to offer you a different perspective regarding "NREs clogging up the numbers". A creative supervisor / manager could also sacrifice an NRE to offer an opportunity to someone who would have otherwise been NSI (probably like you) to stay another year. Most NREs would understand this and go along with the program since they can't be separated anyway. It's called taking one for the team, something an individual with your attitude can't possibly relate to. I myself am an NRE and actually made this offer to my manager. Don't know if he took me up on the offer or not. My PIL review scheduled next week.
if you're not NRE you're in a precarious position, the NRE who would be pip'd out are clogging up the numbers and forcing other non deserving folks who just happen to be younger to be pip'd
If you move to a new group and are ranked with your previous group, you are definitely NSI fodder. It happened to me last year. Fortunately I was In my first year as NRE. Before accepting a move, make sure the timing works out where you are ranked with your new group.
With the new PA process, all the control is now in the hands of the supervisor and his or her manager. Regardless of your performance if for some reason they no longer value your contribution you will go from top shelf to the bottom. This also allows them to trim the organization by moving more people into the NSI group and out of the company. This process also encourages a lot of politics and sucking up to the managers. I guess this is the environment they want going forward. Under the old PA process there were more checks and balance so that a Supervisor could not sink someone's career in one assessment cycle.
NSI to Excellent this year … HR has created a monster out of control.
The bottom quintile was taken out last year, reorganizations to move people around, removed the protection of falling a certain amount of points, of course there are going to be "free falls"
Unfortunately your ranking can go from excellent to NSI even if there are no performance issue. As stated many times on this site PIPs have nothing to do with performance. It has to do with money and power .
With the new PA system there is a huge risk for anyone changing roles to a new assessment pool. I can imagine soon most people will refuse to move outside of their comfort zone due to the NSI risk
Excellent to NSI- How is that possie? Something is missing from your story
Yeah, had to change the workgroup.
That’s crazy! Did either of you change work groups or supervisors?
same experience - excellent last year and completely blindsided by NSI this year with no sensible specific feedback - taking PIL for sure heard too many stories about people grinding through PIP and not passing due to some BS