Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

"Hands off manager...WFH.." I fail to see a problem based on what you wrote unless you need to be micromanaged. Sounds like the perfect opportunity for YOU to step up and make your own decisions...or just sit back and enjoy the ride because you may not be so lucky with the next manager.

Sounds like they are hoping for the PIP so they can get three months pay and leave to greener pastures.

The best thing you can do is to get the "poor manager" promoted to his or her next assignment as quickly as possible so that he/she becomes someone else's problem.

You guys are very hard on phrasing. Be honest. We've all been here. This is honestly not a bad place to be. Don't complain. Volunteer for committees. Just socialize with his boss. Don't complain. He might be untouchable, and if he acts like he doesn't care, he probably is. He might know where the bodies are burried. Only thing you can do is be seen as a "good guy" who "knows his stuff" and "will go the extra mile." None of this is a guarantee. Your path is to be promoted out of the position. If that doesn't happen... I'd start looking. If he is protected, he'll get a raise and promotion in 6 months to a year anyway.

Pastoral support??? Sounds like you need a nanny not a manager. Grow up

If you want to stay in EM, the best strategy is to lay low. We all know that in our “meritocratic” management selection system, you get these fruits a few times in your career. We also know that in two years they will be gone.

If you are planning to leave, why bother?

This is the hard truth. Of course, because of that, senior management can always claim “plausible deniability”. But even in the cases that they know, the best approach is to praise the bad manager so that she/he can transfer out of the senior manager’s area faster to do less harm.

@uhn+1cWGruRx EM is an adult day care tho… hence why there are safety meetings about holding the handrail… just like preschool

@OP+1cWGruRx

I say go for it! Scream out loud! You have a case and make it heard!

You are the only one that's going to make any difference for those of us here that are just hunkering down.

Nothing you can do except to cross your fingers your manager moves, or you move, whichever comes first. The upper levels always have the upper hand and any time you go against the grain, you get yourself in big trouble. That's new hire 101. Crossing fingers helps, most of the time.

Some supervisors are so lazy. They think just because they are supervisors they don’t have to feel obligated in understanding the technical aspects of the work within their teams. I have seen so many bad ones at XOM. Once I had one that used the same excuse for over a year to shield them whenever things went bad: “I’m not a technical person I’m a peoples person.” 😆

Yeah... In your position, you're just not going to be able to make this sup work harder and you're definitely not gonna get them moved or improve anything by going to their boss.

There are way worse things than a hands off/MIA boss anyway.

My advice: if you're trying to learn your job, try to find some more senior technical person out there to teach you. Might not be possible for whatever reason, but I can almost guarantee your lazy sup doesn't know anything anyway and couldn't teach you hard skills even if they wanted to. If the sup is really not paying attention to the team and they don't care what you're up to, now it's time to skate and pull half days. If you don't want to do that for whatever reason, then try to get moved to a different team, or polish up your resume.

This is a business, not a daycare worrying about “Pastoral support “ 🤣

No! This will affect your ranking! Just try to leave that team and go to another team somehow

Unfortunately your hands are tied down. If you report this lazy supervisor to their manager your manager will think less of you and then they will communicate this was brought up to your supervisor and it will all get back to you. I too had to put up with a lazy one that was always very good in asking questions and pretending to genuinely care about issues whenever on zoom meetings. I left and they stayed. Hope they enjoy their pointless career.

Update your resume and start taking interviews.