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New "job architecture"? What gives?

Mentioned in a recent hr email. Changes to the job titles have been in the works for a while now, but us pleebs haven't got any real info. I presume it's getting close to implementation. Who has the details?

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Can somebody share what they were able to see earlier on HR site. I’m unable to find.
Thx!

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Post ID: @Uhlp+1cYVQ0D1

Looks like HR found this post: searching job architecture on the HR site no longer brings up the Excel file and the other information about the changes. Interesting.

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Post ID: @6ujo+1cYVQ0D1

The post below is direct from the excel file on HR site. There might be more, but that is all we can see at this time.

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Post ID: @1xtk+1cYVQ0D1

Its not accurate...or....not all shown. I believe there is a Sr. Principle.

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Post ID: @1jrj+1cYVQ0D1

This company is total cr*p.

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Post ID: @1sij+1cYVQ0D1

That excel file on the HR site is very interesting.

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Post ID: @myb+1cYVQ0D1

Levels:
1-Associate
2-Intermediate
3-Senior
4-Lead
5-Senior Lead
6-Principal

Mgmt:
1-Assoc Mgr
2-Manager
3-Snr Manager
4-Director
5-Snr Director
6-Executive
7-Snr Executive

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Post ID: @apq+1cYVQ0D1

Anyone can see this info in the new HR ServiceNow portal. Just search for job architecture

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Post ID: @efk+1cYVQ0D1

I was below midpoint before the reclassification, but now I'm above midpoint.

Same job, different title.

No doubt that being above midpoint will be used as an excuse for no raise, no matter how well I do on my review.

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Post ID: @jdt+1cYVQ0D1

Numbers aren’t necessarily going away. More going from 1, 2, 3, 4 to blank, Senior, Lead, Senior Lead

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Post ID: @jwl+1cYVQ0D1

If all the #d job titles are going away, will MRPs be kept at the 1 level, shafting everyone with a 2 or higher, or will the MRP be higher than 1? That's the real question here.

Unrelated, but bonus targets going away truly sucks. Pretty clear that the only point of doing that is to reduce bonuses and make it seem 'ok' because there is no target to be far away from.

If it's how leadership really feels they should own it and be unapologetic. 'bonuses are being reduced because we don't think you deserve what you've been getting'. Stick that in your HR all hands emails.

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Post ID: @kcf+1cYVQ0D1

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Yep the tech job reclassification was great. It was basically a demotion stripping numbers off the job titles and having one pay scale instead of separate ones for each level.

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Post ID: @plt+1cYVQ0D1

this is enterprise-wide, connected to the target bonus % going away as well

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Post ID: @vwv+1cYVQ0D1

Hey tech, surprise! You'll be getting another job reclassification in this change, too. They want as few job titles as possible. Heck if I know why, it's just what they keep repeating.

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Post ID: @ehc+1cYVQ0D1

us middle managers have no info either other than it will happen end of year and is at Enterprise level. he will manage job classification a going forward for all LOBs and they are exponentially reducing the number of job classifications

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Post ID: @sxc+1cYVQ0D1

I was basically promised a promotion that never delivered during the tech job reclassification.

That's why I quit.

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Post ID: @ois+1cYVQ0D1

each LOB is different. We went through job reclassification last year (tech).

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