Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

SVB sends: CISO is no longer w/ WF effective immediately

Mass email just hit inboxes.

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Post ID: @OP+1cZjtY0B

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Is it last week again?

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Post ID: @1qrpu+1cZjtY0B

And now early December Ravi has “found an opportunity” outside WF.

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Post ID: @1qikn+1cZjtY0B

It's not that KL was so great; he just wasn't so blatantly bad. SVB has zero credibility and faces tough job suckering someone else into that slot. Also KL was not from Chase, so now we can get a Chase flunky to replace KL. SVB is Chuckie's lap dog. Chuckie is lame duck.

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Post ID: @2fub+1cZjtY0B

Remove SVB!

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Post ID: @1aed+1cZjtY0B

They need to get rid of SVB.

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Post ID: @1ber+1cZjtY0B

Count 1 - hiring unqualified friends
Count 2 - Removing qualified incumbents
Count 3 - Ignoring eligible insiders

Count 4 - Proposing to add even more friends
Count 5 - Threatening to leave when challenged

Guilty as charged . Sufficient evidence presented .

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Post ID: @1cym+1cZjtY0B

Post ID: @1fcv+1cZjtY0B Hilarious. If showing character is acting improperly (by any standard) and getting fired for it, sure.

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Post ID: @1wni+1cZjtY0B

The difference was over bringing more “infosec” people (euphemism for more farma friends) versus people from the industry. Common sense prevailed and the real boss said enough is enough. Game over.

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Post ID: @1deu+1cZjtY0B

When will the BOD wake up and see problem is SVB. 3 CISOs in 3 years? That is a leadership problem. Oh, and add one more; where will you find a replacement that would want to step into this circus?

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Post ID: @1wdx+1cZjtY0B

Kurt had been at bank for 18 months, but only named CISO in April 2021

It means he lasted less than 5 months.

Good lord.

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Post ID: @1oih+1cZjtY0B

something to think about -

Data breach costs rose from USD 3.86 million to USD 4.24 million, the highest average total cost in the 17-year history of this report. Remote work due to COVID has introduced more risks than ever to businesses operating in a telecommuting operating model.

With this in mind, the infosec team has a revolving door - this speaks volumes about the banks:
a) risk appetite
b) risk containment
c) risk mitigation
d) ability to manage a security posture

This bank is probably less than 6 months away from a major customer data security breach.

And given the tone in Washington about breaking up the bank, that would be the end of Wells Fargo as we know it - and likely, a run on the bank.

It will be Wachovia 2.0.

Have a great weekend everyone!

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Post ID: @1vnh+1cZjtY0B

Thamk you Kurt, if ypu are reading this.

Someone needs to stand up for whats right.

Resistance to stupid leadership decisions requires strength of character and you showed it.

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Post ID: @1fcv+1cZjtY0B

@1ztf+1cZjtY0B what a pathetic attempt to save the image of your former boss. You guys have no shame . KL was the first to return to an office . He was the biggest proponent of RTO. Why would we pick up a fight with his boss over something they both agreed on ?

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Post ID: @1paz+1cZjtY0B

He was not on board with RTO. Lead to heated discussion with SVB. Terminated as a result.

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Post ID: @1ztf+1cZjtY0B

RTO approach isn’t.l focused on employees. They pretend it is.

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Post ID: @1fsd+1cZjtY0B

What was this heated discussion?

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Post ID: @1gsc+1cZjtY0B

@1egb Most definitely! I completely disagree with these moves and I’m not anywhere near those areas of the enterprise. They are focused on cutting costs but will do they think will happen if we’re hacked on a major scale? It will be another PR nightmare. Besides that, it’s unAmerican!

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Post ID: @1jda+1cZjtY0B

Saul van beurden is inexplicably focused on offshore, off prem, and third party solutions. Given KL’s job function, I speculate KL has some insurmountable security concerns about those factors. WF. An institution that handles so much money. Puts its trust in external cloud solutions with a history of getting hacked and moves it’s tech base to a country legendary for it

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Post ID: @1egb+1cZjtY0B

It was a heated discussion with SB that happened late last week and KL quit on the spot. Unsure of the topic.

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Post ID: @1jnz+1cZjtY0B

recognizing it.

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Post ID: @dzs+1cZjtY0B

You arent inquiring, you are assigning it.

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Post ID: @yyy+1cZjtY0B

How is it racist to inquire about gender bias?

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Post ID: @ysg+1cZjtY0B

Not really, its just what else can you say.

Btw, you soynd horribly racist always driving to an assumption of gender or racial bias.

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Post ID: @cek+1cZjtY0B

I guess they found out he was White.

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Post ID: @zzs+1cZjtY0B

Notice how they're all quiet now that they know the replacement is a dude?

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Post ID: @iij+1cZjtY0B

Do any of you "replaced by a female" mo--ns work here or know the leadership hierarchy? Ravi is a man.

Jesus this place has sunk lower than rock bottom.

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Post ID: @ipn+1cZjtY0B

Maybe he wasn't on board with the slow, deceitful dismantling of one of America's largest financial institutions.

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Post ID: @wcb+1cZjtY0B

No doubt some guy in India ripped off a ton of database info and sold it to Russians.

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Post ID: @aua+1cZjtY0B

Well, rage quitting a bad employer would give them "no other choice".

Dont believe everything you read. Especially from a leadership team that couldnt run a baseball game for kids

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Post ID: @zsp+1cZjtY0B

difficult to have a conversation when so much trolling goes on.

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Post ID: @lbi+1cZjtY0B

Go look at the My Week blog from SVP. First line says , "Today we announced that Kurt Lieber is no longer with us, but we had no other choice.".

Very cryptic and screams there may be a legal or ethical situation.

Not good to go through 3 CISOs in less than 3 years

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Post ID: @wws+1cZjtY0B

On Monday they announced he was on leave for an undetermined amount of time. Then this hits today? It was not a mutual departure.

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Post ID: @uby+1cZjtY0B

My guess is that with Security related jobs, no matter what the reason is, you leave immediately to protect the customer and the brand. I wouldn’t read too much into the interval.

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Post ID: @wvw+1cZjtY0B

The guy just joined in April of this year. There had to be something serious for them to fire him -- or he saw the writing on the wall on how things are and "noped" right out.

and kind of odd how they put it under Ravi. You'd think they might put it on Lubert (CTO)

Very strange.

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Post ID: @xfs+1cZjtY0B

@wgx+1cZjtY0B KL was replaced by a female. What white male executive is next? A forum never goes by without diversity being a point of note.

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Post ID: @wkf+1cZjtY0B

@jjg

what?? Lieber is an actually comptent CISO with plenty of experience. This is a loss for WF, but it makes sense that this mess of company would be losing the actual competent executives.

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Post ID: @hap+1cZjtY0B

India has InfoSec now.

No need for expensive americans

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Post ID: @xir+1cZjtY0B

Incorrect he was a former CISO and had been doing this work for a long time. Where do you people get your info?

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Post ID: @qqv+1cZjtY0B

KL was not a tech guy. WF did not do any diligence on that hire . The current lot who came in the last months from Pharmaetna are now gonna be running scared.

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Post ID: @jjg+1cZjtY0B

Kurt had to go, he was a white male. Push Diversity for Wells to stay strong.

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Post ID: @wgx+1cZjtY0B

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