Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

This is unnecessary

Sometimes I have a feeling that Honeywell management does things just for the sake of being cruel. There is no need to create new positions, hire people to fill them and then eliminate those same positions within a year. Playing with people's lives like that is completely unnecessary and I don't see any purpose for it other than what I already said: to be cruel for the sake of being cruel.

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Post ID: @OP+1cjkV6eI

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They dump people based on salary, not skill. If you start making more than the kid out of college, you are put on the list regardless of what they’ll be missing out on. It will take them another 2 years to function but the bean counters never see that as an issue.

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Post ID: @dgzp+1cjkV6eI

It's not cruelty. It's a bad finance design. You get money yearly. It benefits you to overspend (over hire) in the hopes that you can keep some of the people, knowing it will balloon and lead to layoffs.

If you don't the ones who do overspend eat your cake because mid year they put on the breaks and slow everything down. Then, budget cuts hit and your budget is reduced to balance those who overspent.

This absolutely encourages people to do the wrong thing every year, because if they don't they get worse than nothing... they get deeper cuts.

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Post ID: @ceox+1cjkV6eI

As a (happily) former employee, I find this easy to believe. I especially agree with @ewn+1cjkV6eI post that the tactic being used is "Hire-to fire". What kind of person can be a manager, director, or vice president be who makes this stuff happen? I know, they will say it's there job and they are just following orders. There once was a rising military power in Central Europe who's commanders might have said the same thing, or worse yet , felt what they were doing was good and right. (WW2) - in retrospect it was neither good nor right. At least they had the decency to "self remove" after the whole thing collapsed. What will Honeywell's leaders do when they realized what they were involved in?

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Post ID: @2oow+1cjkV6eI

You gotta have fun with these mediocre individuals in charge, embarrass them through different means or get them pi---d off, remember they are nothing special especially outside the four walls, never their cruel actions go unpunished

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Post ID: @2vlk+1cjkV6eI

With all the nonsense thats going on I wonder how come they haven't rid themselves of the corporate people. Starting off with is that newly appointed VP of manufacturing and automation. A wasteful setting and a more wasteful appointment after what he did with AME and the R&O sites which is in complete disarray after groups of engineering were spent chasing half baked strategies. He is a true symbol of honeywell rewarding undeserving individuals by promotions while the truly deserving gets kicked out.

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Post ID: @2jsz+1cjkV6eI

In addition to other factors, it also shows that the management is completely lost with a clear vision, strategy and tactical plans. Worst company that I have ever worked for. Glad I am out!

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Post ID: @2qxk+1cjkV6eI

Because they don’t know what they are doing. It’s obvious.

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Post ID: @2xqg+1cjkV6eI

Folks...the real reason this happens....there is no strategic vision. Yes, maddog and his cast of pu--y cats create a 5 yr strategic plan, but they never follow it nor do they have a deep understanding of demand next week, let alone in 5 yrs. This is why you see so many knee jerk reactions like this. This is not my negative opinion, this is 13yrs of being a director at aero and seeing how the sausage gets made. It's scary how maddog runs things! He always get rewarded and employee fund it one way or the other.

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Post ID: @1zbp+1cjkV6eI

The cruelty is the point...

A compliment, underfoot workforce is too listless to push back against ever eroding "benefits" and perpetual claw backs from corporate.

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Post ID: @1scs+1cjkV6eI

Please distribute union cards. Sure fire way to get management attention at a site.

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Post ID: @hjv+1cjkV6eI

Must keep the slaves on their toes. If they get comfortable they will want more $$$ and god forbid medical benefits that actually pay expenses.

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Post ID: @tvi+1cjkV6eI

Hire-to-fire is the tactic they use to legally be able to target so many old-timers.

To fly under governmental radar, for every layoff the company must publish a list of each position eliminated, the location, and the age of the person laid off. For every late-career person let go, there will also be a newbie let go, which to the powers that be is no big deal because the newbies were hired cheap, no investment has been made in them, and they'll get minimal severance.

That's why it's true that oldsters are targeted, and it's also true that new hires may be out the door inside of a year.

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Post ID: @ewn+1cjkV6eI

I agree although gratuitous cruelty is the GE, er Honeywell, way.
A company that treats its employees well?
We can't have that. That's not tough management.
How can you be a tough manager if you don't abuse your employees?
C'mon man.

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Post ID: @teg+1cjkV6eI

Beast are cruel.

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