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IBM Cloud vs Cloud and Cognitive Software

Can anyone educate me on the difference between IBM Cloud and C&CS? I don’t understand the difference, particularly in reference to “future IBM” (post Kyndryl). Appreciate any insights. Thx.

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Pretty much all of that is false. I work in cloud under C&CS and have plenty of colleagues scattered throughout IBM both systems and cloud.. We don't use anything legacy IBM whatsoever outside of systems, everything is brand new and/or open source. IBM cloud has failed? Hmm, I guess The $26B a year is made of Monopoly $. People on this site go a tad bit overboard with their rhetoric.

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Post ID: @2ynu+1cjuefVA

C&CS is an org that serves two purposes: it allows IBM to inflate its externally reported Cloud numbers; and it provides a few execs with huge empires.

(Actually the cloud numbers are even worse than that: my own product, not part of C&CS, is reported externally as Cloud, even though only a tiny %age of our revenue is legitimately cloud.)

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Post ID: @2pcr+1cjuefVA

C&CS is essentially the old Software Group. ie all the software that IBM sells...
None of that software is really made for Cloud (still)... and I don't want to hear that it is not true because IBM has come up with the CloudPaks... CloudPaks are a total aberration.

After all these years, IBM still does not understand what the Cloud is.

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Post ID: @1tau+1cjuefVA

Ibm cloud is public cloud which was softlayer and has completely failed while c&cs is lot of software that ibm sells which includes "hybrid cloud" as well as watson suites.

Hybrid is basically them taking old software and trying to run it on ocp.

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Post ID: @ljw+1cjuefVA

Cloud is part of C&CS.

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