Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I would hope that anyone who is smart enough to try to get away with working two jobs is also smart enough to use separate devices for each company.

Cisco provides you with a laptop, and data from it is automatically backed up to a Cisco server and logs are auto forwarded to a centralized log server, so they don't really have to "monitor" you until they suspect something is up and then they just look at logs.

Your second job should provide you with a laptop, so use it instead of your Cisco device.

There are easy ways to make it look like you're active, and yes, some forms of monitoring can tell if you're using any of those ways, but lots of people use them for legitimate reasons. I use "Caffeine" to keep my system active so that I don't have to press a key or jiggle my mouse when I'm stuck in hour long meetings.

My problem with the whole 'work 2 jobs' idea is that my role requires 4-6 hrs of actual work to deliver my assignments each day. Then I'm stuck in 2 hrs or more of meetings. I can't multitask enough to deliver two jobs worth of work in 40 hrs each week and I don't want to get burned out working 60-80 hrs each week to deliver 20-30 hrs of work plus attend meetings for each company.

I'm with @1wvl. It's not worth ruining your work reputation to try to get away with it.

This was between '06 and '11, but I don't remember exactly when in that time frame. There was a newly hired guy on our team that started coming into the office less and less and working remotely more and more. No matter how easy the assignment, it always seemed to be delivered the "next day". Turns out that he had "offshored" his own job to someone while he worked his main job at another company before he joined our team. He had saved up enough PTO hours at his other job to take 3-4 weeks off while he came up to speed on his Cisco job, hired an offshore worker to give assignments to, and then turned in their work as their own. It didn't take our team long to figure out what he was doing and terminate him. And they tracked down who his other employer was and let them know so he got fired from that job too.

Oh, an anonymous internet commentator offering such insightful advice. It takes an IQ of about 68 and a common sense of a duck tu-d to write those three words. There are posts on this forum that already outline (from court documents) what CSCO is able to monitor from your desktop device. Cisco have said that managers should not use tools to monitor employee’s time, but they see a lot more than you think.
And if they find out, it’s specifically against a condition in your contract, so you’re likely to get booted out.

@1wvl that's total bs.

I’m not passing judgement on what other people do but you guys doing this ought to be careful. Not only is it fraudulent and a dismissible offence if they find out (how will that look on your resume?) but you do realise that Cisco can put software on your PC/Mac, or use the native API abilities of the Windows or OSX operating system to see what you are doing and measure the screen time? They can see what URLs that are being visited and how long you spend there. I’m not scaremongering, you can google this concept of remote employee monitoring yourself. Not sure if Cisco actually do this but many employers with remote staff do. Too much of this and Cisco will absolutely install such software.

A LOT of people are working 2 jobs right now.

I did it for a while too.

This is 💯 correct!