Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Advise on switching company

I am planning to apply for a new job in coming months. Currently, i am a lead systems engineer. I really don't see a career path after lead engineer at honeywell. Been a lead engineer for over 4 years. Which companies would you recommend to apply which pay better than honeywell. I understand that pay is based on how you negotiate and your skillset, but would like to know which companies folks on this forum moved onto and got a better pay than honeywell. Planning to apply at - Raytheon, collins, boeing, lockheed, general dynamics.

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All of those companies pay "market mid-point." Try Amazon, SpaceX, or Blue Origin for aerospace background. All of these are a mixed bag in terms of work life balance (Bobby did move from Hon to BO, afterall), but if you have the technical chops, you'll get 2x your current comp. Any of the big tech companies will be similar (they all make devices), but breaking into the "consumer" electronics space tends to be difficult, as that is usually a basic qualification.

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Post ID: @ircw+1ctPgr4k

I went to GE after being told I would have to move to a hub in 2019. 90% of my coworkers took the severance like I did.

So much happier at GE. No 9 block evaluations. Raises and bonuses. The equivalent of a band 3 at HON gets a 10 percent bonus at GE. We got more than 10 % this year.

Even before COVID I worked from home two or three days a week. Now 100% at home unless I am traveling for work.

Even business travel is better. No $30 limit for dinner and many more hotels to choose from.

And GE actually let’s use use the unlimited vacation. I have taken 3 weeks already and we get half day Fridays Memorial to Labor Day.

At HON I only saw offices in South Bend, Minneapolis and Tempe but the GE offices I have used are much newer and cleaner.

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Post ID: @hkeg+1ctPgr4k

When I was job searching, one career coach suggested looking at companies that are hiring for sales positions. I'm not in sales, but that's another angle to find a growing company. Find companies that are growing, and that look good to you.
Then go from there. Good luck!

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Post ID: @2amy+1ctPgr4k

Work smarter not harder. When you find a new job. You are smarter. If you stay your work harder, otherwise you will be put on a P.I.P. This will make it work harder.

However, you will get the same results. Which will be a reduction in force. If you don’t meet Honeywell management quotes. This is how we get our bonuses. Wait a second. You don’t get one.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

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Post ID: @1hge+1ctPgr4k

Color is very important in promotion process in ISC engineering.

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Post ID: @bwv+1ctPgr4k

Good move. Engineers in AERO are looking at a bleak future ahead. Why would a VP for that ISC Engineering group promote 3 engineers to be chief engineers for lack of talent. All but 1 of the engineers possibly deserves to be a chief engineer. The other 2 are merely imbeciles that are strutting around the corridor believing that they are god's gift to the engineering community. VP of ISC Engineering has no talent in selecting talent.

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Post ID: @afx+1ctPgr4k

The companies you list are going to be essentially like Honeywell.
They go thru the same cycles at around the same time because the CEOs and other leaders read the same books and implement the same practices.
Been that way for years.

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Post ID: @bls+1ctPgr4k

All companies use the same "playbook" these days, namely, to hire them with a bump in pay then keep the pay flattened.
HR exists for one reason, to keep employee costs as low as possible. When that couldn't be guaranteed using U.S. based workers, they opted to go overseas and tap into the "low-income" markets, oops, I meant to say, "emerging economy" markets.
Find an employer who will value your contributions, that's a pretty good sign they'll take care of your future.

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Post ID: @hye+1ctPgr4k

Geography drives more than anything.
The big companies will all be similar.

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Post ID: @otq+1ctPgr4k

Try GE

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