So many people are saying they're willing to quit due to vaccines/RTO, pick one. My question is, did you really not have better reasons until now? Low pay, cuts in benefits, horrible management, toxic work environment, the company culture that favors nepotism over meritocracy... You were okay with all of that and these are the issues you're willing to quit for? Seriously?
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yea,even with "Low pay, cuts in benefits, horrible management, toxic work environment, the company culture that favors nepotism over meritocracy..." - put up with all that for: family healthcare.
plus, I already know all the b.s. and road furniture on this course.
Easier than. navigating new digs.
just give me my package already.
Definitely RTO for me. I’m finding many job posting for remote jobs (even after covid). Two interviews deep with one company and had an initial interview with another this week. Of course the bank can run their business as they like, and employees can run to better situations as well. Hopefully soon, saying goodbye to BofA.
I personally haven't felt very fulfilled in my current role for the past couple of years but have enjoyed the opportunity to work remotely. When we were initially told earlier this summer that everyone would RTO 5 days/week without any flexible work arrangements it has prompted me to look for opportunities at other companies that offer flexibility.
Flex work arrangements have emerged as a major driving force in how many workers view their jobs, it has become as prominent as paid time off and any other benefit to people like me who have young children and value a work/life balance that works well for them.
I'm not happy with the Bank's approach to politics or their increasing amount of focus on Indian labor but those factors alone wouldn't prompt me to want to leave the Bank but a combination of these plus the Bank's reluctance to allow flexible work arrangements makes me feel like I may find something better in the current job market.
Post ID: @vcb+1cvjm7ir Even media started to ask some questions about what we do not know about this virus, how it affects the vaxxed and unvaxxed:
https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2021/08/are-vaccinated-people-more-vulnerable-to-covid-19-than-previously-thought.html
While it’s evident that vaccination provides strong protection against the coronavirus, scientists are increasingly concerned vaccinated people may be more susceptible to serious illness than was previously thought.
According to a report by Bloomberg, this growing concern comes in the midst of a shortage of scientific studies with solid answers, leaving public policymakers and corporate executives with only “fragmented” information on which to base their plans.
As a result, the report noted mask mandates are being renewed and office reopenings are being delayed, while other officials are choosing to maintain the status quo, citing the “lack of clarity” to justify their decisions.
“Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate,” Bloomberg reported. What isn’t clear is the frequency at which this is happening as well as the likelihood of those people spreading the virus to others.
As Bloomberg reports, vaccinated people are much less likely to require hospital treatment for COVID-19 and are much less likely to need to be put on ventilators. And those who have had the COVID-19 vaccine are much less likely to die.
But about 30% of adults have yet to be vaccinated. And doctors are paying attention to infections among those who have been vaccinated.
Tom Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the head of the nonprofit Resolve to Save Lives said, “We have to be humble about what we do know and what we don’t know.”
“There are a few things we can say definitively. One is that this is a hard question to address,” he added.
The vulnerability of the vaccinated is a key variable.
For vaccinated people, the lack of clear public health messaging reportedly has left them confused as to how to protect themselves. Their level of vulnerability is a key variable for public health officials as they try to make informed decisions, such as when booster shots might be needed, or whether to “roll back reopenings amid a new wave of the virus.”
“It’s quite clear that we have more breakthroughs now,” said Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco. “We all know someone who has had one. But we don’t have great clinical data.”
The report noted one of the best-known outbreaks among vaccinated people that occurred in Provincetown, Massachusetts. Thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated alike gathered over the July 4th weekend and what appeared to be “a turning point in the pandemic.” Vaccinated people accounted for about three-fourths of the resulting 469 infections.
40% of Syracuse-area Covid cases are in the vaccinated. What does that say about the vaccines?
Prompted by the incident, the CDC reversed a recommendation it had issued just a few weeks prior and once again urged the vaccinated to mask up in certain settings, Bloomberg reported.
There are more questions than answers.
Bloomberg noted “there are simply more questions than answers” at this time. Is the delta variant the reason breakthrough infections are ticking up — or could it be that immunity is waning, or simply the result of returning to normal life?
“It’s anyone’s guess.”
“Are vaccinated people more vulnerable to severe illness” than was previously thought? “Just how common are breakthrough infections?” the news outlet asked. “It’s anyone’s guess,.”
“It is generally the case that we have to make public health decisions based on imperfect data,” Frieden said. “But there is just a lot we don’t know,” Bloomberg cited.
@bnv+1cvjm7ir - Diluting the real issue? Do you mean a person's decision to make a major life choice is not as simple as one contributing factor? I am vaccinated but concerned about catching delta variant when I return to office.
Is that enough given the multitude of other variables to make me quit without another job lined up? No.
Is that enough to make me explore options without a rushed sense of urgency because everything else is not that bad? Yes.
You can rally the troops and get support on this site to reinforce your viewpoint to help further rationalize your dissatisfaction, but that doesn't mean your viewpoint is widely held by the thousands of other employees.
"Low pay, cuts in benefits, horrible management, toxic work environment, the company culture that favors nepotism over meritocracy..."
All valid other than perhaps nepotism....I just haven't seen that. But that said, yes those things were tolerated because the grass is not necessarily greener in a different company. All large companies are rife with these things. And all focus on the shareholder over the customer or the employee (at least all I've dealt with).
But none of those things are asking me to risk my life or the lives of my family and friends.
Post ID: @vhb+1cvjm7ir you are very good deconstructing definitions and giving new meanings, alongside with diluting the real issues, while leaving a few crumbs of truth on the table. Too bad by now people have made their mind.
I think everyone's experience is different. I don't experience a toxic culture at all, management has been supportive of growth and giving stretch opportunities leading to upwards transitions.
Nepotism or just networking and building your brand? A true meritocracy does not exist anywhere really, so it's not unique to BofA. Given the same exactly skill set, it's not what you know, it's who you know holds true. "Culture Fit" means you get along with everyone and are not some pariah wierdo outcast who doesn't know how to play in the sandbox.
I agree that pay could be better. Raises from internal mobility definitely do not match market rates.
I think everyone's experience is different. I don't experience a toxic culture at all, management has been supportive of growth and giving stretch opportunities leading to upwards transitions.
Nepotism or just networking and building your brand? A true meritocracy does not exist anywhere really, so it's not unique to BofA. Given the same exactly skill set, it's not what you know, it's who you know holds true. "Culture Fit" means you get along with everyone and are not some pariah wierdo outcast who doesn't know how to play in the sandbox.
I agree that pay could be better. Raises from internal mobility definitely do not match market rates.
probably the straw that broke the camel's back is RTO!