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What happens if you report your manager to HR for unprofessional behavior, including harassment? Is it the kiss of death?

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I did, my director issued a PIP to me even i'm the best performer in the team, also he keep challenging me about my behavior like didn't join in the meeting or didn't reply him the email with his requested format, i sent the compain letter to HR and summarize his unprofessional behaviors and unfair treatement, also attached some records i collected he was blaming another colleague not joining the team call because that colleague was keep caughing can't speak even one word, the result is i got my lay off package and leave, what i didn't expect is my direcor was terminated even before my leave, that's wonderful!

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Post ID: @ehgb+1d2FRyQr

I reported a issue to the ethics hot line and an HR rep called from another division. They interviewed me from my home phone. They specifically told me not to interview from a internal Honeywell phone. Two weeks later a lawyer called on my home phone for a deposition. Two weeks later my manager was terminated.

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Post ID: @7iwr+1d2FRyQr

Unless you know they’re looking for an excuse to can your manager, avoid complaining to anyone at the Well. Even your peers can slip up and say something that can be tied back to you.

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Post ID: @7zwd+1d2FRyQr

I had a Director who openly discriminated against me on a team call due to my physical handicap. My colleagues were stunned at her comments, and told me so. When I mentioned this to my HR Generalist during a conversation the complaint was immediately pulled into the "machine" for processing with little to nothing I could do to pull it back. The corporate HR cops first interviewed me and got my story and then began looking into the Director, using their 'secret Nina' techniques. Eventually, and no surprise to me, they told me they'd found nothing wrong with their female hi-p-t Director and that I was simply mistaken.

Best thing you can do is find another (better) job, and move on.

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Post ID: @7khh+1d2FRyQr

The hotline is definitely not anonymous as its able to track the EID that was logged on to lodge a complaint. I did use a personal email once to describe the event and left a paper trail for them to follow without revealing my personal details to be traced back.
Unfortunately, it went silent and no reply to my personal email if action was actually taken. Its just a blackhole.

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Post ID: @2pup+1d2FRyQr

The hotline is NOT anonymous, nor do they address issues, particularly if it involves someone in upper management. They just work to make it go away, and they protect their own butts. Also, people who are being investigated will know it's you who turned them in and you end up on a trouble maker list. End of career. Watched it happen a number of times over the years.

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Post ID: @2nvs+1d2FRyQr

Reported mine a few years ago. Went nowhere. So did a co-worker, who got the axe within months. We weren't elbows or box 5's. I got out before it was my turn.

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Post ID: @1rlk+1d2FRyQr

The purpose of HR is to protect the machine. You are a commodity that is to be used and exploited. Its that simple.

ALT laugh when they get a call from HR. Its a badge of pride for them unless you take legal action. If you do, they will look for any reason to get rid of the infidel that dares to impact the mission.

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Post ID: @1nsy+1d2FRyQr

You will be put on performance improvement program, or eventually they will use reduction in force. In order to get rid of you.

What Bob Hope always song. Thanks for the memories.

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Post ID: @1jtv+1d2FRyQr

Completely true—- hotline is NOT anonymous. Have seen many people persecuted for calling that number. I am a band 4 with 30 years and under no circumstance would I EVER call HR before actually consulting a lawyer. Let the lawyer call HR that way it will be taken seriously and the inevitable reprisals documented and actionable.

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Post ID: @1snq+1d2FRyQr

I made a documented claim via anonymous ethics hotline. 2 days later, HR reached out to me direct. Its not anonymous nor ethical. Think twice.

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Post ID: @1kvv+1d2FRyQr

Most of the time it can be a kiss of death. So if you do it, you better have a real clear cut violation with absolutely no ambiguity.

Example. I had an generally difficult employee claim that i was having him falsify time because he didn't agree that documentation was part of his chargeable work. I was given the option to just fire him. (I stupidly didn't.)

But, I've also seen complaints "reevaluated" a year later to fire someone they want to get rid of between riffs. 

Finally, never have a complaint that looks like 2 people just don't get along. That will make you a riff target.

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Post ID: @1ztk+1d2FRyQr

I reported my manager to HR for threatening to PIP me for missing time after I was diagnosed with a serious medical condition. Within weeks I had a new manager who told me do what you need to do to get well. In about 7 months my ex manager was caught up in a RIF. There was never any retaliation toward me.
That said, "unprofessional behavior, including harassment" is subjective. It won't work out well for you.

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Post ID: @uip+1d2FRyQr

DO NOT i repeat DO NOT ever engage the ethics hot line if that still exists, We about 6 of us opened a complaint (it was 11-12 years ago) after our manager hired his wife. The 2 people on the ethics "team" were from a Honeywell plant is Wash. state located some 1500 miles from us. They interviewed us and said we would hear back from them with in 30 days. Never heard a word from them. We tried calling and emailing to no avail. I left that job a couple years later and the wife was still reporting to her husband.

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Post ID: @gwy+1d2FRyQr

You only go to HR if your attorney explicitly states it is the correct action.

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Post ID: @dxn+1d2FRyQr

Kiss of death. Just move on. You can report it in an exit interview or in your resignation letter

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Post ID: @wou+1d2FRyQr

I know someone who did that and a week or so later both they and their boss were canned.

HR exists to protect the company from its employees. Never forget that.

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Post ID: @wen+1d2FRyQr

No matter what happens you will no longer be trusted by majority of future managers. If you are a woman then male managers will fear you and female managers will be suspicious. If you are a minority it will trigger racist behaviors in future managers.

Unless you have something worth discussing with the police I recommend recruiters as a more productive call.

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Post ID: @ozo+1d2FRyQr

You screwed up.
Best update your resume.

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Post ID: @rqn+1d2FRyQr

If it's harassment, HR will definitely deal with it. If it's just complaining about fairness issues/etc- doubtful much will come of it unless HR has received similar reported instances in the past.

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Post ID: @loz+1d2FRyQr

Never trust HR.....remember they are not a separate entity. They are just pawns for a corporation.

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Post ID: @anm+1d2FRyQr

Whatever you do don't contact the HON "Integrity" hotline. It's a joke and only exists in training material to fend off lawsuits.!

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Post ID: @pzx+1d2FRyQr

HR is not your friend. One time I got tired year after year with no promotion, I asked HR what do i have to do for a promotion. Manager was no help of course. Next thing I know 3 months later, I'm on a PIP. So stay far far away from HR.

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Post ID: @rse+1d2FRyQr

YES! Kiss of death for sure. You can't change HW, only yourself.

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Post ID: @nhf+1d2FRyQr

Remember, HR is not your friend. Their only purpose is to protect Honeywell from lawsuits. Your manager will receive some sort of warning / sensitivity training, but most likely not be fired. You will most likely not file a lawsuit, so HR will have done their job. Then you can expect absolutely nothing from your manager.

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Post ID: @dpz+1d2FRyQr

There is a proffessional position which HR stands by between employee and employer. The latter being the legal ramifications that may arise from bad publicity. Despite being an unpopular group of people in the company, they would still protect your interest and take the neccesary action if needs be.

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Post ID: @xbr+1d2FRyQr

https://www.eeoc.gov/harassment
OP: See the link for definitions of harassment that HR is supposed to follow up on.
Your post claims "unprofessional behavior" but you don't describe it to see if it falls within the EEOC definition. Keep in mind that HR is there to primarily protect Honeywell.

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Post ID: @zsu+1d2FRyQr

You will be removed.

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