Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Long distance RTO

The commute to my allocated space is almost 100 miles one way. I used to have a work from home agreement for a while before Covid, but that is gone now. I did the commute for a few months, and it is too much. I like working here, but I dread having to drive that three times a week again. Is there a way to apply to get a severance package after RTO?

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Post ID: @OP+1d4eoTRc

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Nope. OP if you are legit, this is just a mistake - the rules are that if you are within 40 miles you need to go in. There is a process to correct these mistakes... ask your manager.

If you're not legit - shame on you!

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Post ID: @2voe+1d4eoTRc

"The selection was performed with the "aid" of some AI routines, and it apparently had bugs."

AI? Was the model approved by CMoR?

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Post ID: @2vrf+1d4eoTRc

Working Remote was touted as a benefit and as a "savings" from money that would otherwise be spent on things like gas, parking, etc which in turn justified a lower-than-industry level of salary.

So if they take that away by making everyone go to an office, is there going to be a bump in the salary of people who were hired as full-time remote...?

I rather doubt it.

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Post ID: @1bdl+1d4eoTRc

I have a feeling the as----e comments are posted by Charlie's admin... paid for by WF

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Post ID: @jgm+1d4eoTRc

on the call we had the RTO consultant mentioned your location must be a "commutable distance" to your office but WF specifically refused to have a standard definition of "commutable distance" citing this is largely a personal choice.

Also you are generally required to pay state income tax to the state in which you reside as well as to the state(s) in which you earn income from. However it is very common for neighboring states to have mutual tax reciprocity agreements to prevent this typ e of double taxation.

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Post ID: @hth+1d4eoTRc

@wjk+1d4eoTRc People who live in one state and work in another pay taxes to both. You pay unemployment tax where you work, for instance.

In the NY Metro area there are reciprocity agreements between the states on how to treat state and city income taxes but you pay both until you file your taxes and hope for a refund.

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Post ID: @oyc+1d4eoTRc

@evk same.

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Post ID: @plj+1d4eoTRc

@jlw

Only new job postings that indicate the job is remote require operating committee approval. Your management team right now can approve WFH for your existing job.

My whole group was WFH before RTO, and we're continuing WFH after RTO, and it did not require operating committee review.

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Post ID: @evk+1d4eoTRc

Aren't taxes based on where you live -- not where you work?

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Post ID: @wjk+1d4eoTRc

Don't expect any sympathy. There are pre-COVID WFH employees who are now mapped to offices in different states, who as of this Friday will be paying taxes for a state they do not work in at this time.

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Post ID: @ero+1d4eoTRc

: @qna

Speaking of reading comprehension.. 100% remote work arrangements require approval from the entire operating committee, it’s not your manager. Good luck getting that approved when we can’t even get in office location exceptions in certain businesses, like risk

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Post ID: @jlw+1d4eoTRc

I am okay. I live one mile from my office.

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Post ID: @bve+1d4eoTRc

Remote working is not disallowed at the bank, people need to learn to read better.

Telecommuting agreements were scrapped. This doesn't mean that there's no more telecommuting, there's just no "agreements". Now it's just up to your manager and you to make sure you follow the remote work guidelines, which are stupidly simple to follow.

Stop freaking out about it and understand what's really happening. This is said in literally every communication about it. Yes, some departments are losing WFH or some WFH. That's the employer's prerogative, acting like it's some draconian blanket policy is sensationalist.

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Post ID: @qna+1d4eoTRc

While a reality, it's kind of BS that for years people could work remotely only to be told, sorry no more, go into the office. Yeah, it's great to disrupt people's lives and make them pick and up move.

Our HQ is in San Francisco. Where does our CEO live? NYC. Funny how execs get contracts and can do as they please but long established policies like remote working gets thrown out. There are a ton of roles where there is zero reason to be in an office especially with technology being what it is.

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Post ID: @dks+1d4eoTRc

This is the modern tech version of the old system of simply switching someone into a department everyone hates. Makes you quit.

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Post ID: @hip+1d4eoTRc

100 miles is greater than 40. You have the right to refuse, and by policy you should be eligible for severance.

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Post ID: @htr+1d4eoTRc

Apply to get severance package? LOL!
Like I don’t want to work for you anymore now pay me when I leave. Yeah I am sure that is how it works. Go for it. Give notice and wait for severance package to arrive

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Post ID: @qoj+1d4eoTRc

Why wouldn’t you just contact your manager and discuss? 100 miles one way isn’t something most if any would do. It sounds like a mapping mistake. Is there a closer location to you? Were you remote prior to Covid? Did you move that far away during Covid? Clearly there’s some type of issue but the answer to your question is technically yes- look up the salary continuation benefit in the benefits book. A material change in location is defined as over 40 miles one way from your prior location to new. You won’t “apply” though, it would occur after rto if they don’t mP you to something closer. I would guess if they need you they’ll just tell you to be remote.

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Post ID: @qfo+1d4eoTRc

There are lots of reports like this. Some assigned to report to other states, some an impossible distance away in their own state. The selection was performed with the "aid" of some AI routines, and it apparently had bugs. I would escalate through your manager or manager's manager to ask for a remapping. You have until Jan at least to get it sorted out. And my guess is RTO dates will probably be pushed forward again since every regular cold or bug that people usually get during the winter when your vitamin D is low will cause leaders to shrink back until Spring.

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Post ID: @hzi+1d4eoTRc

LOL, seriously? So, you no longer want to work for wf, you put in your two weeks, there is no company out there that allows you to fill out a form so they can give you money because you decided to quit based on something like commuting. Granted, there are TM's that are way up there that would get exit packages, but not you. This is their plan, and it sounds like you will be a TM that they are banking on leaving. No package, money saved.

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Post ID: @ldz+1d4eoTRc

Nope. Seeee ya, I wouldn't want to beeee ya!

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