A small digression, the topic is neither mandates nor cuts, but the rumor I heard that maybe we could get off Notes. I hope it comes true.
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maybe HCL will run notes backend for Kyndryl
Kyndryl is 100% notes free
I have been on Outlook for a year and it is so much better than Notes. The rumor has it that the Notes should gone by 2H22.
CIO is on outlook/exchange. It's great, you can use any native OS client or the Outlook apps.
Thousands of apps still in use
Yes but how many of them actually useful? I can't think of single one that I use. How much does IBM pay increasingly-fewer engineers with legacy Notes skills to maintain this stuff?
We should be porting away as fast as possible, or at least making Notes a legacy-app-only thing, not email or scheduling. Maybe we can eliminate a bunch of useless and/or unwieldly processes along the way. This is an opportunity to reboot with a clean slate and no sacred cows.
Thousands of apps still in use, we're stuck with this tu-d for years.
When are we migrating back to PROFS?
I was told 6 mos ago. For HCL to take LN, IBM would agree to use LN for 3-5 yrs more. No Outlook until then at the earliest. Sorry
Computers are too hard!
Outlook is a piece of cr-p… so complicated!
maybe HCL will run notes backend for Kyndryl that might fulfill the contract just over a longer period of time.....
Isn't Verse just running on Lotus Notes or Lotus Domino on the backend?
I worked at an IBM site a full two years ago. Notes was supposed to be "sunset" then. And golly gee, it wasn't and hasn't. And HCL took it over. Isn't that a comforting thought?
If you want things to dissolve in the toilet, just pour some hydrochloric acid
(chemical symbol HCL) on it.
This came up during the Notes upgrade debacle - as part of the sale of Notes to HCL IBM agreed to keep the majority of its users on Notes for a fixed period of time. They would not reveal how long that period of time is, making me think there must years yet to go.
why use notes when you can use Verse, it's actually not bad at all.
AFAIK they never did sort out the calendar issues between Notes and Exchange.
The smart thing to do would have been to designate Exchange as the system of record and accelerate the migration to Outlook/Exchange.
The really smart thing to do would have been to get that migration done before the outage earlier this year, focusing resources on Outlook instead of Notes, iNotes, Verse, and whatever other bad, obsolete idea the CFO had.
That would actually cost money
That would actually cost measurable money, meanwhile the unmeasurable money lost due to Notes inefficiencies is greater, but unmeasurable.
IBM beancounters never seem to look at the hidden costs or benefits.
That would actually cost money ... so the answer is a big NFW on that! 😏
didnt they try that and failed.
MS Outlook would be easier to use, so the answer is no.