Unions caved and now they’re forced to take the vaccine. The union seems to be doing a lot of that the past 10 years.
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True. I said lowered the odds sure a strike could happen. I don’t see Hans forcing it like that last stooge. Strike is a none issue
@1ksw Yawn . . . just a cut & paste from similar posts from 2015 & 2016, but you just replaced 5G supposedly taking over the company literally overnight back then and replaced it with this latest gibberish.
Strikes are over. Once the company split the contract the ability to strike dropped. With all these hammer heads down south not standing tall. 3rd party’s lighting the fiber for the last mile. All the oof stuff with B in charge. We are a giant routing data mover- with speed. Stocks going to bo-m from these levels 20% over next 12-18mnths
Hey freedumb guy @1sjv , we sure hope your husband will be able to assist you in figuring out how to take a ladder off of a truck during the strike, let alone figuring out how to “put 2 wires together“ in order to get a customer back in service or complete an installation. Carry on.
It’s tough for unions when some of their members demand ridiculously stupid things. By law they have to represent that stupid thing.
Antivax? You’re an id--t.
Don’t want the shot? Be unemployed!
But don’t blame the union for not winning a completely unsupportable idea.
They represented the few who don’t understand science, and they lost. It was obviously going to be this way as there is no legitimate reason to not get the vaccine, and only magats whine about it. We’ve learned it’s totally safe to ignore magats, they’re id--tic sheep following a con man into a ho-e. Sc--w ‘em. Get the shot or get lost. Losers.
@1iia... sounds like it's time for you to immigrate to the communist paradise.
Nobody's stopping you.
China is eating our lunch because they mandate everything in their citizens life.
Wow, what a great company to work for, where all that’s going to be left is the freedumb guy and all that “good riddens” type. Oh joy! Deeversity. Yippee!
The never changing “next time” argument. Next time the same people will have the same problems. Just like the mask. Maybe if there wasn’t such a backlash to masking there would have been a place for unvaccinated to wear one of those instead. But nope you same fools pushed it to this. Your own fault. Daddy Verizon got to show you now. Sad for sure. Some folks should not be allowed on the internet research team . No wonder china is eating our lunch.
The sad part of all this is people are being forced to choose between their livelihood or a shot they have reservations about taking. For most of us we took the shot and it was our choice to take the shot. Nobody forced us to take it.
For those that take delight in this situation. Today it is a shot that is being forced on people. What is the next mandated thing going to be. Next time it may be something that does not align with YOUR beliefs. Slippery slope these mandates are. While a proponent of getting the shot I am very much opposed to mandates.
Something to think about for all when a moment of clarity comes upon us all.
So isn’t Verizon essentially violating our constitutional rights?
@mjq+1dT17YV0 Yes, please by all means go around and see how much support you get from your crew for that wildcat strike. You freedom fighters keep just showing how truly ignorant you are. Im begging you to see how much support you get with that at your local garage or office. Lemme know how well that goes for you. Call up Alex Jones and get him to join your cause. Oh wait, he is vaxxed too. Maybe get ahold of Fox news and they will run with your story. Oh, they are all vaxxed too. What about OAN or Newsmax, oh wait, they are all vaxxed too. Maybe Trump? No...he is vaxxed too. Welp, it will be you and the good ole boys. woo wee. Freaking Brainiacs that work here.
Strike!
See how much work is left undone and money is lost!! I'm tired of supporting this company and government. They both suck.
Tired of hearing about the Knuckleheads who refuse to get vaccinated.
Thanks for posting that CWA bargaining report several posts below. However that belongs on the AT&T board. Now go get your 8th booster shot.
https://district6.cwa-union.org/news/cwaatt-wireline-covid-vaccination-bargaining-report-9-final-report
That’s false. Look no further than the United States Post Office. They are exempt from the mandates. How do you explain that?
Mandates are not laws. It’s just a strong recommendation. Most of those pushing these illegal mandates that violate federal, State and International laws are exempt from the mandates. Which should be a red flag to anyone. After all if those that push the mandate really believe it’s so critical than why are they exempt?
Mandates cannot violate laws. We are a nation of laws and not mandates. The President is not a dictator. It’s called separation of powers, and checks and balances.
Effects Bargaining Report
COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate- Verizon
In mid-October Verizon announced that their non-union workforce would be subject to a mandatory Covid- 19 requirement. At that time, the announced mandate did not apply to the unionized workforce as the Company had an obligation to notify the Unions.
On October 14, 2021, Verizon notified CWA and IBEW of its intent to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine for the unionized workforce unless an individual has a medical or religious exemption. The Company cited safety of employees and customers and the need to comply with federal, state, local and customer requirements as its reason. CWA and IBEW requested to bargain over the effects that a mandate may have on our members. The Unions and Verizon began negotiations on October 28th.
We requested information to determine if it was necessary under the federal mandate applicable to federal contractors, to apply a vaccine mandate to all employees. Throughout the course of negotiations, the Unions’ position remained firm that employees who do not perform work in connection with a federal contract or do not work in a location with others who perform work in connection with a federal contract, should not fall under the federal contractor mandate and therefore they should not be mandated to be vaccinated. In lieu of mandating vaccinations for employees not covered by President Biden’s Executive Order regarding federal contractors, CWA and IBEW proposed applying the workplace safety protocols issued by OSHA – protocols that include testing and masking for unvaccinated employees. Verizon was insistent that it would not agree to any proposal that required them to have two policies. The Company’s position, which is consistent with various other employers who have federal contracts and fall under the Biden Executive Order, is that creating two tiers of standards – one that applies to employees who are covered by the Executive Order and another standard for employees who are not covered – will be extremely difficult to administer, and could lead to the Company inadvertently violating the federal requirements for vendors, potentially risking the loss of federal government work.
The parties had several bargaining meetings and continued to exchange proposals over the terms of the proposed policy, its implementation and its effect on our members. CWA and IBEW consistently maintained that the Company could distinguish between employees covered by the Executive Order and those that are not. In addition, we advanced proposals designed to protect the jobs of our members who for medical, religious or personal reasons choose not to be vaccinated. We stressed the various options for such members, including accommodations that would permit employees who qualify for exemptions to comply with OSHA’s safety protocols while continuing to perform their job duties.
On November 16, 2021, the Company presented a Last Best Final offer, which included modifications based on the Union’s counter proposals to Verizon, including extending the deadline for Verizon’s vaccine requirement for the unionized workforce to February 1, 2022.
The Unions made a counter proposal to the Company’s last best final offer which was rejected, with the Company continuing to insist on one policy that covers all of its employees. Today, Verizon informed CWA and IBEW the parties are at impasse and that they intend to impose the terms outlined in their Last Best Final offer. The Company will communicate the terms of the implemented policy with employees’ tomorrow morning.
The following are some of the key aspects of the Company’s last offer:
- Employees who do not get at least one dose of the vaccine prior to February 1, 2022 may be placed on unpaid leave for at least 60 days.
- If at any point during that unpaid leave the employee submits proof of partial vaccination, the leave will be suspended and the employee will be permitted to return to work abiding by applicable safety protocols.
- An employee who does not get at least a first dose of a vaccine prior to the expiration of the 60 day unpaid leave may be separated at the end of the leave.
- Employees will have the opportunity to apply for medical and religious exemptions.
- Employees who are unable to get vaccinated during non-work hours will continue to have up to 4 hours of paid leave to get a first dose and up to another 4 hours of paid leave to get a second dose of a two dose vaccine.
It is a federal mandate! Some people are too ignorant to understand the facts. Are you expecting the Union to go against VZ to go against Biden and the administration?
So if you dont take it do you get offered anything since you are in a union or are you just out with nothing?