The age limit seems to be shifting and now much younger people become victims of age discrimination here. Unfortunately, we seem powerless to do anything and stop the age discrimination.
The only hope is that karma will hit them back.
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55 with 18 years of service
Age 58 with 36 years of service.
ATT only promotes minorities at mid levels. They use anti-white racial policies at the bottom while they protect the good ole boy network at the top.
Have not experienced this in 20+ years.
Started to feel discriminated against at the young age of 64. Was pressured to quit by various management tactics, but I stood firm and am still employed! They still throw everything at me to make my life miserable, but I'm used to hard work and nothing will force me to retire before my terms.
I was surplused at 60 because I had a short runway, didn't want to move to a new org and was paid higher than my peers. In fact was told the AVP had just caught up to me in salary. I notice lately 95% of promotions going to minorities and they don't make up 95% of the base. My advice would be if you are a young white male with good skills go elsewhere as you will not be fairly treated in this spiraling down company
Not sure what type it f discrimination I faced but had to be something. Always a high performer with great ratings and feedback from managers. Found out my salary was ~$30k less than peers in same geo region and same years of experience. Some of the feedback was managers must not have looked out for me, maybe just unlucky, did I ask for raises… Yes, I asked for raises. Yes, I asked if compensated fairly. Didn’t ever realize I was $30k behind my peers. That was the push I needed to finally leave and get a raise from a new employer.
Here's my perception as a manager:
People come into this company at a level. Most stay at that level for years, with a few getting one or two promotions across a decades-long career. A very small number are exceptions to that rule, and I imagine the corporate stance is "they were exceptional achievers, of course!" while I know most of us understand these as "right place, right time, right connections" advances—especially if a specific high-level executive is particularly interested.
Another group come in from outside at levels equivalent to the post they are leaving. I know small startup co-founders and presidents typically come in at VP levels, did not progress very far, and left after few years, when they realized they weren't going to advance up the ladder. An even smaller number leave and come back, jumping from AT&T to Verizon to Comcast and then back to AT&T, only this time three levels up.
In none of this did I perceive age discrimination, but rather a tendency for the upwardly mobile to stay that way (i.e., the Randalls and the Stankeys) and everyone else to Peter Principle at some level and stay there. By the time an employee is in their mid-50s or so with more than 5 years with the company, that perception is locked in: either be up or out in 3-5 years, or stay at the same level until retirement (that latter comprise the majority of employees).
In my case, I'm compensated for technical expertise and the company went to some lengths recently (as in big raises) to keep us around. I have no aspirations to manage people or juggle budgets or "be in Dallas."
I’m not sure. I’m in my 50s and have been through three early to mid 30-something level 3s in the past 3 yrs. none of them know what our jobs and lob entail, but they keep cycling them through anyway. By the time we get one somewhat acclimated, they get promoted and we get another newb. It’s exhausting. Best qualified for not get hired. It’s qualified and whatever protected class is the flavor du hour. I’m all for diversity in hiring, but stop hiring ppl based on their ethnicity or se-ual orientation instead of whether they can be successful in the job. It’s not ok to set folks up to fail or to make the company look extra good publicly. Hire ppl who are best for the job you are hiring for. It’s not rocket science.
I never did in my 33 years of service.
today when I rolled up to the drive through li---r window and tried to buy a pint of schnapps during my lunch break
at 48, I was told to my face that I was "out of runway" at T...seriously.
“Never felt age discrimination.
As a WASP Male, I did suffer race & gender discrimination. Too white, too male”
This is definitely happening and not just at ATT. Not only is it ok to discriminate against white males, it’s encouraged. I was never one to agree with that until recently when interviewing for a role and was told by the hiring manager that they had to hire a minority or female for the role even though I was more than qualified.
The younger wire tech/ prem tech crews have more people and they usually have more than one person on the same job when needed. The older special services SSIM crews have less people and everyone is usually dispatched on different jobs. One person will have to do the work that two are assigned on the younger crews. It can take longer that way.
I never did. I retired 9/30 39 years service.
you're probably...........just not that great at your job?
you're probably just imagining all the oppression you're seeing
When I was 30, hired in and found out only older employees got pension. My increased 401k match paled in comparison.
I never did. Retired with 38 years of service at age 58. Never felt age discrimination.
Never felt age discrimination.
As a WASP Male, I did suffer race & gender discrimination. Too white, too male - Too Bad!
I’m 39 and I’m feeling age discrimination, they only want 20 year olds or 30 or less