Am negotiating an offer with HW. How much is a good salary for a med-level (~8 years of experience) and advanced degree (MS/PHD)? Reason am asking is that I wanna be within the spectrum but slightly closer to the top. Is 140-150K low, med, or close to upper end?
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You're asking a bunch of trolls? You might want to get a refund on that degree.
I just looked at the reviews on Glassdoor, and it's actually not that good for HW. Even if companies try to skew the data, it's still hard to switch the overall picture. Glassdoor is so accurate for small companies, however, for large corporates there is always a chance that they are paying 3rd parties to make them look slightly better (still too hard to change the overall picture).
Unfortunately, Glassdoor has become nothing more than a propaganda machine for most companies. Most reviews are manufactured by the company and posted by contractors to make the company look better.
So glad that HW no longer have people like you on the team. You probably were part of the problem and negativity around. Good to see sick people leaving, good for HW, and good for those who are there.
So slick, @OP, to swoop in and pretend to be someone else defending you. So bad of these awful people to ATTACH you. You know nothing of the culture we left or why we left it.
A word to the wise, just because we have a right to do something doesn't mean we should do it.
The amount negativity here is unbelievable. Sorry If anyone got angry cause I keep asking questions trying to protect myself and family (do you expect me to tell you all, or HR, who I am?) It's my right to protect myself. Anyway, I am not joining HW, and If I do, I'll probably do it only if (a member from my family) get a job in the same area asap. Thanks for those who shared their feedback in a positive way without attaching my like animals. The reason HW is laying all if you so quickly is because of those very few people who don't even know how to treat others or respect them, they very well deserve to work in such a cr---y environment that they have created for themselves.
The OP asked a question, and you all answered him based on your experience. If you don't like the fact he keeps asking questions, just ignore it, and move on - I don't see why people like to be aggressive. Leave him alone, he is doing the right think by asking questions here. Whether he knows nothing, savy or not savy, it does not matter. This forum is to share experiences and to help each other. Let's just treat each other nucily at least for nice!. I left HW because of all of this negativity around. People are always ready to fight and nobody wants to help. Shame on you @1dbb+1eFeXZGr and @1vof+1eFeXZGr. The OP did nothing wrong so you'd attach him that way
@OP, oh yes, you're so smart, you came on here and misrepresented yourself to suss info out of mostly well meaning people. Fact is, you won't last long being an annoying little weasel. They deserve you, but from your reactions to the mild jostling you got here, you won't be able to handle the culture after the new-hire glow has worn off. Enjoy!
If you are a "Med" level Engineer you should go back to "Med School" and finish your degree and make a lot more money. If however, your spelling is bad and you are an Engineer (not a headhunter testing the waters), you must be a software guy and that's a different category altogether.
Der smart a$$ Post ID: @1vof+1eFeXZGr
I am smarter that what you think !. The number I claimed in the post is not exact (though it may be), the place where I live is not where you thought, and the claim that I do not know glassdoor wasn't correct (just tried to be nice to that person who recommended it so he would feel good that he helped me, as a nice gesture). Also, the 8 years of experience was just a relative number, of course am not going to reveal the experience I have, and finally the 140-150 is not the number. It is just me trying to see if negotiations are possible, and from answers, I can indicartly tell what the entry level is, med level is, senior and then managers level is (I got answers on all of those levels). Now which one is truly my level? am not going to say that also. Adding to all that, I never indicated what degree exactly I have (I kept it opened but advanced to make it clear that am not a technical or manufacturing worker. For sure I have more than just a college, but who knows, two BSc? MS? MS and PHD? am not gonna say!.
Also i know about furlough, but trying to pull further info (so am smarter that you think, and your response is the proof). A Mechanical engineer is a very broad term (he gave two options, electrical or mechanical) so I just chose mechanical cause it is not electrical, but certainly I am not going to say what it is anyway!
In the end, I smartly got all the answers I need without giving a single hint about my actual metrics. If anyone would use them to figure out who I am out of the SO MANY offers being made, it will lead to nobody or at least to the wrong person.
@OP, you have become a pain in the neck. You come to a layoff site expecting to hear great things about employment with HW, you don't know about Glassdoor (meaning you also don't know that Honeywell pays a third-party to have all unflattering -read honest -reviews removed), you don't know about the minority effect, you don't really know what a furlough is, you don't know that job security died shortly after bell bottoms, you don't know about the relative value of different types of engineers...in sum, you are not business savvy in the least.
You are also clueless enough to have identified yourself to the HR folks who lurk here as a mechanical engineer with some sort of advanced degree and 8 years of experience (working in a vacuum) in the LV area who has been made an offer in the $140-150k range and wants nothing more than job security and to make closer to $150k.
Do you think they haven't already figured out who you are and do you think they will now offer you more than the acceptable salary you've implied? You can't possibly be worth it to them.
what are the "weekly furloughs" !!?? and how do they impact income?
I would go with the Glassdoor data based on my previous experience with the company. But remember what you are signing up for. If you negotiate a higher salary then they will just tell you that your are on top of salary range so you don’t get a raise. Also you can have weekly furloughs at any time so take off 10% of your salary. Finally they are also very cheap on the year bonuses. Also I don’t think with that salary you will be promoted for another 10years if you stay in engineering.
I used to work here but got laid off right after getting promoted. I know VPs that got laid off just as quickly as I did so no position is safe here. Honestly my friends working for airlines had better job security than here during covid. Luckily I found a better job but would not recommend anyone joining Honeywell no matter what the pay is.
Glassdoor shows a much lower salary range than what was reported in this forum.... seems like people here are trying to push the salary expectations much higher for new comers so that current employees appear to be under-paid and get better compensation or raise ..... I mean really look at Glassdoor... 90 of the reported salary for senior and principle engineers and even managers are way lower that previous comments here!. I really wish people can be a little more honest... I don't understand why over 20 thousands data points on glassdoor would be wrong while the fewer data points here are more accurate .... thank you so much for suggesting glassdoor, I didn't know about it!
There's glassdoor for question like these. Would avoid the anti-vaxxers and low-life trolls of the Honeywell world.
Mechanical
Are you electrical or mechanical? That matters too
Here's a plan for ya...
You tell them how much you want. They either give it to you or offer less.
Assume you take the job. You've already been told what it's gonna be like. Some people are OK with that, some aren't. If you don't like it, quit. If they don't like you, you're out. That's how it's going to go anyway, so save your energy.
You're looking for the wrong position. Why would you want to be a mid- level engineer and get tied down with 90% business management work? Better to be an upper-level engineering technician so senior engineers can count on you to write technical documents, perform detailed design reviews, and solve complex technical problems they are responsible (and paid) for but don't have time for. You may only get $25/hr but hey, at least you get paid for overtime along with some nifty taxable bravo awards and no shortage of goal results for your performance review.
Why ask the range at Hon? If Hon's pay band is lowercthsn expected, then what?
The real question is the worth of your experience and contribution to a potential employer based on the relevant market rate at the specific location
There is little correlation with pay and experience/education at Honeywell. Low level managers and senor engineers around $120k. Principle engineers 120-200k. But you easily can have a senor engineer making more that a principle. There is variation depending on the type of engineer you are, with a bias towards real time control engineers.
But what matters is the annual raises. The high side of any pay range are those engineers in the "inner circle boys club" that get put in the top ranking blocks year after year regardless of actual performance.
So do you have an M.S. or a PhD.? Oh wait, I don't want to keep you here talking.
For that level experience and credentials, Realistically you can get between 150k-170k, sign on bonus and stock options if you negotiate well enough. It depends on the level. I am talking Senior level. If it's a principle level role would be 180k+
What part of the world?
Or What part of CONUS?
What SBU?
What discipline?
Male or Female?
Minority?
Well respected university?
No. How about you stop coming to a layoff site for information on getting hired.
come on..... can anyone answer my question in a serious manner?
who is considered a (minority)? and why does it matter for HW in terms of salary?
I think the likelihood of getting hired goes up if you are a minority; but, salary goes in the opposite direction unfortunately.
$200k
Add $50k if you are a minority.
Subtract $80k if you are white male.