What will AK do now?
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Most recent updates from HR:
- Badges will be deactivated Feb
1st for both non-compliant, and those with "approved accomodations--medical/religious"
- Those that have yet to submit a request for accomodation(those really nasty non-compliant folks) are told they are approved temporarily to WFH--no specific date..again.
- They will be given "reasonable advanced notice" when they need to stop working....from home.
Moral of the story--Had everyone ignored the fear mongering, scare tactic emails when they were first being sent out 4months ago, you would still be employed, WFH.
Everyone has been WFH exclusively, for the most part, the last 2yrs. With the absolute assured scaling back of restrictions taking place as we move forward this year, how IBM, or any company, could justify placing employees on unpaid leave, when they can clearly do their job from home, is beyond lunacy.
@8ouu+1eMmsQ7G I didn't receive that email from HR (yet). Could you please share some of the exact verbiage in that email?
@6rmo+1eMmsQ7G Your badge will be turned off Feb 1 per the email HR just sent. Unless you can prove you will never have reason to be in IBM office, client office, vendor office, etc, in which case you have until end of Q1. Hasta la vista plague rat.
@6adp,
Have fun in the office where the vaccinated can give each other covid.
The ones that did not get the jab will continue to wfh as instructed.
Don't go hating.
The unvaxxed (and I am not one) are dead as Dodo birds. At this point in time, it seems difficult to argue that getting the shot helps stop the spread. There are so many cases among both vaccinated and unvaccinated that one more or less won't make a lot of difference. You should still get the shot because it does appear to reduce severity and that translates into less stress on our shared health care system.
But that is not really the point. The point is: the overwhelming majority want to work with only vaccinated. (Well over 70% of Australians thought that that tennis player whose name I can't spell should have been kicked out and there is a similar dynamic here.) Even though the reality is that you are probably not spreading the disease more than anyone else, there really is no need to deal with your obstreperousness. You only really have two things going for you. Vaccine safety... but in reality, these vaccines are pretty safe and you have almost no chance of coming to harm. Vaccine efficacy... no they are not stopping the spread (at all.) But they could keep you from clogging up a valuable hospital bed. Sadly, a lot of you are turning this into some sort of crusade beyond those points. You sort of have a point...if "they" can compel this medical procedure where does it stop? Forced ab-----n? Forced sterilization? Forced conversion therapy? Forced identifying tattoo? The problem is one of scale. You have already had a dozen vaccinations and one more really won't hurt you. (Maybe one in millions and millions will have an adverse reaction. But you are not that one.) So now it's like you are just trying to be a nuisance and everyone else just wants to move on. This is why there won't be that much lamentation when you take your final bow. It will be sad to see some of you go, but, and don't take this the wrong way, it's just not worth the trouble. And, along those lines, your future opportunities are pretty limited. IBM is (as usual) a follower not a leader. You are going to have to find some specific niche places to ply your trade because the whole "sc--w it ... it's not worth worrying about the holdouts" is pretty common.
Other industries found that there were pretty big disruptions when vaccine mandates came out. Sometimes, the employer caved; other times, not. But these disruptions were and are and will be temporary. Fairly soon in the time scale of this wretched pandemic, you will be replaced. You are fighting for a principle that, noble though it may be, is essentially such a minority position that you have no leverage.
The SCOTUS ruled that the federal mandate does not hold (except in some health care settings.) But most large private employers want the simplest answer. And the simplest answer (which also holds for IBM) is: most employees want a vaccination mandate. You have to do what is right for you. Also, you have to understand that you don't really have all that much support.
Go ahead and hate on me.
they really dont have a choice, or their contracts get cancelled now. and since there are lots of them, and spinning off a larger portion of the company than Kyndrl did. and taking lots of profit, with it.
All the losers on slack pushing the jab are crying in their beers now lol
Will AK follow the Citigroup or GE path? I think we know that answer. . .
Citigroup Sticks With Its Covid-19 Vaccine Mandate, While GE Drops Its Rules --
https://www.wsj.com/articles/citigroup-sticks-with-its-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-while-ge-drops-its-rules-11642258637
Citigroup Inc. C -1.25% is sticking with its Covid-19 vaccine mandate for its U.S. workers. General Electric Co. GE 0.68% is not.
The two American companies are going in opposite directions after the Supreme Court blocked Thursday the Biden administration’s rule that big employers require their employees to get vaccines or submit to testing.
Citigroup, which has about 65,000 employees in the U.S., said it had reached 99% compliance one day before a Jan. 14 deadline the bank had set for U.S. workers to get vaccinated or request an accommodation for medical or religious reasons.
“Our goal has always been to keep everyone at Citi, and we sincerely hope all of our colleagues take action to comply,” the company’s human-resources chief Sara Wechter said in a LinkedIn post on Thursday after the high court’s decision.
The bank previously told employees anyone who was still unvaccinated would be placed on unpaid leave, according to people familiar with the matter. Their employment would terminate on Jan. 31, the people said. Saturday, after a wave of last minute vaccinations, around 150 employees were being placed on leave, one of the people said. They could keep their jobs if they comply by the end of the month.
Citigroup and GE announced vaccine requirements for U.S. staff in October, after the Biden administration said large employers and government contractors would be required to enforce vaccination mandates. Both companies count the U.S. government as an important client.
At the start of 2021, GE had about 56,000 employees in the U.S. It originally told them they were required to get vaccinated or seek a religious or medical accommodation by early December. It suspended that policy in December after a court challenge temporarily blocked the rule for federal contractors.
The manufacturer still required U.S. employees to show proof of vaccination or submit to testing under the White House’s mandate for companies with more than 100 workers, until the Supreme Court blocked that policy on Thursday.
GE on Friday suspended its remaining Covid-19 vaccine requirements, a spokeswoman said. The company said most of U.S. employees are vaccinated and it was on track to comply with the federal contractor executive order before the court injunction.
Sane companies will keep the mandate. They want employees that are alive, not dead.
AK will ask the US workforce to get the booster shot.
The OSHA mandate didn't impact IBM. IBM is a federal contractor and will still need to abide by the vaccine mandate in order to be able to bid on federal contracts. It's the same exact reason why the Hospital employee mandate is legal. They have to abide by the vaccine mandate if they are receiving federal funding from the fed.
Everybody get back to work now
The issue is dead now, everyone goes silent.
It's State law now, so IBM will have to try to follow individual state laws.
Yes, exactly, let's see how AK and the execs spin it now. Your move.