Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

This is the biggest reason people quit—and it's 10 times more important than pay

Jennifer Liu
14 January 2022
CNBC

Business leaders spent the bulk of 2021 managing record turnover during what's become known as the Great Resignation, with a big focus on people quitting for higher-paying jobs, better working conditions and attractive benefits. But according to one analysis published in the MIT Sloan Management Review, researchers say record turnover is actually being driven by something a lot harder to fix: a toxic work culture.

From the data — which considered turnover from April to September 2021, Glassdoor reviews from the last few years (including before the pandemic) and 172 culture metrics at roughly 600 companies — researchers found toxic work culture to be the biggest factor that led people to quit, and 10 times more important than pay in predicting turnover.

From those reviews, the most common ways employees described toxic culture at their company were through a failure to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion; workers feeling disrespected; unethical behavior or low integrity; abusive managers; and a cutthroat environment where they felt colleagues were actively undermining them.

What's significant is that toxic workplace factors lead to a "stronger reaction" — quitting — more so than other bad work issues, says lead author and MIT senior lecturer Donald Sull. "People may grumble about their workplace being bureaucratic or feeling siloed, but they still don't leave," he tells CNBC Make It. But signs of toxic work culture are making people walk away.

Industries with the highest rates of attrition from the research are apparel retail (19%), management consulting (16%), internet (14%), enterprise software (13%) and a four-way tie across fast food, specialty retail, research hospitals, and hotels and leisure (which all saw 11% rates of attrition).

But employers within each industry also varied widely in their turnover rates. In aerospace and defense, for example, Boeing lost 6.2% of employees from April to September compared with SpaceX, which lost 21.2% of its people. Sull says those differences can indicate how much company leadership, not just what's going on in an industry, plays a role in work culture and turnover.

Other leading predictors of turnover include job insecurity and reorganization, high levels of innovation (as in, companies that move so quickly that they burn out workers), failure to recognize employee performance, and poor response to Covid-19.

Failure to recognize performance could mean high performers don't feel they're being rewarded for their efforts, or they feel that low performance is being tolerated. Either way, Sull says this cause of turnover is preventable and especially damaging: "By failing to recognize high performance, not only are you losing people at higher rates, but you're losing people who are highly valuable to the company."

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@OP Like most other things that CNBC puts out, this piece is almost entirely BS.

Companies know why people are quitting, because the people who are quitting tell them on their way out the door. It’s not complicated; companies are asking for levels of commitment that don’t match the compensation. This “company culture” narrative is just a collection of junk ideas for executives to talk around so that they can keep dodging the actual problem.

BTW, RTO has nothing to do with “collaboration” or other oft-said nonsense. Your boss wants you back in the office because that’s where he gets his petty perks.

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Post ID: @1nad+1eN3UJTB

Very infotaining fluff. But work places didn't become more toxic during Covid, did they? If anything, I would expect many to have become less toxic with WFH, etc. So why the spike during Covid? Maybe I expect too much from infotainment.

I can see the issue in "fast food, specialty retail, research hospitals, and hotels and leisure (which all saw 11% rates of attrition)" but that's because of layoffs in some areas, higher demand and fewer workers to handle it in other areas. Until employers staff up with a critical mass of workers, they will be shorthanded, the stress will be on, and the workers' willingness to put up with it for a pittance is not worth it. If the employer paid more in retail, etc, like maybe hazard pay, workers would stick around, and the business would attract that critical mass. It's always about the money.

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Post ID: @1esd+1eN3UJTB

SpaceX can’t be compared with Boeing. SpaceX has a much younger employee population. Their turnover rate was probably substantially higher than Boeing’s even before the pandemic.

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Post ID: @1mkf+1eN3UJTB

Oh bu-----t. Based on Glassdoor reviews? REALLY?!! Hardly a representative sampling or particularly reliable data. I expect more from Sloan but not CNBC. Sure, most jobs, managers, and workplaces suck. That's because sh---y executives, bad managers and lazy employees (look around you, 25%-50% of your coworkers are lazy, stupid, or stoned and shouldn't be there!) are executing terrible business models that are polluted by misguided social-political agendas instead of focusing on THE BUSINESS. HR has infected corporate cultures with the idea that employees want to be a part of something, that companies need to stand for something. No. Employees want a paycheck and a job that gives them something interesting or fun to do, and a career(s) that offers some promise for supporting their lives and families over the long term. It's when they realize their corporate culture is a fu---d up joke or they get tired of having values shoved down their throats that they quit.
If you quit or want to quit, is it because you wake up thinking "Godda-nit, I can't stand the lack of diversity and inclusion in my office"?
So what is really driving the shift? Simply put: THE SPELL HAS BEEN BROKEN. For most of their lives, people have bought into the idea that they need to get in there, get a job, work hard, save, live to work, have two wage earners in the household, have multiple jobs, have a side gig. In other words, the American dream. All that went away with "flatten the curve." People realized they were expendable. You can lose your job in the snap of a finger. Now, sit at home for 18 months and reflect on how unappealing
it would be to get back into it and hustle like a hamster on a wheel again. There's more to life: home and family and health and no commute. People have had the chance to disassociate their identities from their careers and they are rethinking both and how they fit together.
So now there is a shortage of SUITABLE jobs, because MOST JOBS SUCK. People are considering their options and not getting back in there. So employers are doing more, being more flexible, to offer jobs that are attractive to people who are not sure of their goals in life or how they want to spend their precious minutes on this planet. That flexibility creates more choices which make people more inclined to evaluate their options.
More to the point, this labor shortage makes EVERYONE more valuable in the short term, especially the currently-employed.
Eventually, the invisible hand of the stern market will force people to make compromises again.
But it's not about fuckiing diversity and inclusion.

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Post ID: @1xcs+1eN3UJTB

Kutton kaise ho?
Translated to: Hello doggies!

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Post ID: @1ybb+1eN3UJTB

Everything rings true, except that the FIRST reason for the Great Resignation is “ failure to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion”. That’s just the PC boilerplate that the reporters felt they have to attach there so they wouldn’t leave themselves open to attack on the W front (that’s not the Western front, but if we call it for what it is the post will be removed).

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Post ID: @hgp+1eN3UJTB

Well, thar post is pretty much spot on!

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Post ID: @fqg+1eN3UJTB

Yes and the earlier this year was the disgust with mgmt on using covid as a scapegoat to cut a huge part of the workforce. How they always preach long career and company has a long term outlook and understanding that downturn would be short but still taking opportunity to cut led to breaking peoples trust and drove individual insecurity.

While some of my colleagues are delighted with the increases from leaving, most left due to the breakage in trust of losing their colleagues in a short sighted opportunistic way. Considering we continued paying a dividend it’s ridiculous to think we choose cutting staff before that, it helped a great part of workforce realize how expandable and how little they mattered. Mgmt may use words today but unfortunately for them actions have consequences and they are seeing the accelerated fallout from it.

If I’m going to have insecurity I might as well make more salary, especially considering end of year the Dallas mgmt committee when raises and rsu allocations were frozen (2020 going into 2021) for company and we were eliminating a significant portion of staff long still got their bonus allocations. From a group that wouldn’t even move to campus even though they consolidated locations through US sitting in the “god pod” to Houston it’s very disconnected.

But hey that’s just my anecdotal opinion from my colleagues that departed.

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Post ID: @cbw+1eN3UJTB

Not all attrition is salary related. But XOMs Q12 2022 attrition is definitely salary related.

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