Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

“ I do not think independent thinking means what you think”
That’s a good one! OF COURSE “independent thinking” means what your tribe thinks, because your tribe is RIGHT! That is the whole point of independent thinking!
I hope you didn’t spend too much money trying to get an education, because there’s nothing to show for it.

@5nnb I do not think independent thinking means what you think. Have you tried the horse dewormer yet? Surely that is out of the box thinking not promulgated by a certain tribe ..

I’m currently an expat and just yesterday we received a mandatory survey in which we had to disclose which vaccine we received and when. We also had to upload the vaccination card.
If you want to be or remain an expat there’s no option unless you have a medical issue which would then likely disqualify yourself.

More likely comparing it to the flu! 1 dose or none and you’ll be over it in a week. Stay home if you are sick, get yourself healthy.

Ive never had multiple doses in a single year. Most?

Most vaccines are multi dose 🙄🙄🙄

I thought that even the ideologically obsessed can tell the difference between the Omicron variant and, say, Ebola, typhoid fever or bubonic plague.
But let me spell it for you: if you catch Omicron, chances are you will be posting throughout the disease your arrogant, politically driven drivel on this site, although you will deny you got the virus because, as our president taught us, Covid is “the epidemic of the un-vaccinated”. If you catch Ebola, chances are they will be able to move your job to Bangalore without having to PIP you first. Got it?

Did the government ever try and force you to get the flu shot? Have you ever gotten three or four flu shots in a year before?

I’m sorry, but the side of the aisle that refused to wear masks when there was a highly transmissible respiratory virus spreading like wildfire, and largely refused to get vaccinated (both for transparently political/tribal reasons) doesn’t get to tell the rest of us to follow the science now.

But if you were actually interested in following the science you wouldn’t use surface level “common sense” analyses to try and justify continued bad behavior. One of the primary reasons Omicron appears to be less fatal is that roughly two thirds of the population is now fully vaccinated.

At this point I’m exhausted, realize that you can’t fix stuupid, and have lost hope that the federal government will nut up and institute mandates. But seriously p!$$ off with these recycled arguments: it’s not that bad, mah freedommm, experimental scary vaccine, etc. And FFS you don’t get to pretend to follow the science NOW. Gaslighting.

I love the open ended tinfoil hat comments about “this is about control”. Of what? To what end? The simple courtesy of wearing a mask for brief periods of time during a respiratory pandemic being morphed into basically “they’re resting if you’re willing to be a slave … it’s an evil plot”. Chr!st almighty.

So it’s not more likely that dishonest opportunists on both the right (Fox and other usual suspects) and left (Russell Brand, Jimmy Dore, etc.) are weaving these depressingly easy to sell crackpot ideas to a public that hates being told to act responsibly???

Can the “Omicron is mild” crowd define mild? Hospitals are full, teachers are calling out sick, and yes, people are dying from omicron. Not to mention the impacts of long COVID. The long term impacts of this disease, especially on children, is still TBD. Australia and South Africa are on the downside of omicron, but the death rates are now spiking. I have several co workers out with COVID and I’m sure others are coming into the office with active cases. High Vaccination rates prevent mutations and whether folks want to admit it or not, this is our only way out of this. I don’t see how the SCOTUS ruling benefits EM or any business that wants to keep people in the office or working. It’s ridiculous that EM does not have a mandate as much as this company hates WFH or not having folks in the office. Last week nearly everyone in an open area was at their desk working with a mask on. What’s the point? I guess the folks in their glass offices are perfectly fine with this visual. So ridiculous. Yes, we have to learn to live with COVID. But, it’s not going to happen while basic services like hospitals and schools are barely surviving.

As a personal choice, get vaccinated by all means.
As a mandate, the question that so many people refuse to answer because it upsets their ideological position is: should vaccination for a milder disease (the Omicron variant) be mandatory, the way it should be for smallpox or TB, which are extremely high mortality diseases?
Soon we should have reliable data on what the mortality of Omicron is. I’m sure though the authorities are reluctant to make them public, just they have for the harsher variants, because if the numbers are really low it would undermine their power over people, including on the mandate matter.
Could we, at least for once, actually follow the science instead of declaring it, meaning get the reliable data and make a decision based on facts instead of ideology?

Is that actually a serious question? Why should you be “forced” to get the vaccine if it supposedly only helps you? Jesus … again, see small pox … or use your brain and realize why it’s a bad thing for you and your loved ones when there are no open ICU beds ever.

Preemptive rebuttal to your stupid comeback about how this vaccine is “experimental”: you have no problem with monoclonal antibodies when you get a serious case and they’re less established than the fully approved vaccines … and the vaccines are old enough now that we know they don’t cause adverse side effects beyond what can be seen for other vaccines. That never happens after about 6 months of widespread use for vaccines.

Double preemptive: But VAERS 🤡🤡🤡 … i.e. the unverified list of anything that happens to anyone within weeks of being vaccinated.

I think Chevron is hiring. Something tells me they have a spot for you.

At best, the vaccine prevents serious illness to the recipient, but that’s it! Why would it be forced upon anyone? It does not stop the spread of anything … Polio girl!

I want my freedom to give your kids polio!

@1hgb “Constitutional” does not mean things you like, and “unconstitutional” does not mean things you dislike.

And the vaccines have been wildly effective at preventing serious illness, for the other dipsh!t carrying the Fox News “it doesn’t prevent infection” BS. By the way, it greatly reduces infection rates, Tucker Swanson.

“… continue to mask up out of respect …”. I’ve never considered someone wearing a mask to be a respect issue. I’ve seen it as a sign they are afraid to live their life normally.

Since the effectiveness of the vaccine is not at all what was initially promoted, it doesn’t stop the spread or keep anyone from getting Covid, there is little reason to trample the rights of the people and force them to become a vaccine experiment.

XOM can still require employees to take the jab, but I’m doubtful that’ll happen. If they made it a requirement, it could expose them to legal issues when someone has complications or even dies from the vaccine.

@OP As far getting Covid-19 under control, the ruling doesn’t work in favor of anybody. It all but guarantees that the pandemic will be needlessly dragged out for ideological reasons.

That said, industries that employ large numbers of non-college educated men (i.e. oil & gas) will probably hear a little bit less noise from them about vaccines, since they’re the people most opposed to to getting vaccinated.

FYI: There is no law preventing any private employer from requiring you to be vaccinated as a condition of employment.

It works against the wellbeing of the people, so it is perfect for Exxon and the antivaxxers on this forum.

Current SCOTUS group will probably junk OSHA completely given a chance.
This just a first step.
I've always said: Bring your own PPE.

Irrelevant to EM, really