Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

It's not a HIPAA violation. That's not what HIPAA is even about.

On one hand it really do not bother me because I'm young and healthy.

On another hand it do bother some people because they temperature may be affected by poor circulation, diabetes, blood pressure, obesity, heart issues, med lists go on and on.

Be safe and not a ja----s. Don't leave this out for everyone, because it is not for everyone.

#1 I feel that you shouldn't be required to record your body temperature unless the information is protected from other people's prying eyes.

#2 If someone measured your temperature and you had a fever, they can tell you to go home. That's all they need to say. Additionally they can send their management a list of people that were sent home each day.

And if your manager is telling you to go to work with a fever, than your manager should be fired.

What wrong with people.

I feel they should install a kiosk so that our information isn't available to others. They could easily. Cisco is a technology company.

I'm retired. Is it true that companies now share contact tracing information and your personal information in their front lobby?

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Ok first of all there was never a need for them to leave this information, unless the goal was to shame someone with a high temperature into staying home.

True.

Second some of the lobby doors are not locked during the day and anyone can walk in and have access to employee information.

The requirement to enter the building is to be symptom free, i.e. no fever. Unless they're paying someone to sit there and take your temperature & act as a gate keeper, then they need a log to show that everyone who came in the building was showing no symptoms when people invariably announce that they've caught COVID and have been in the building for contact tracing purposes.

It's not to shame you, it's to hold you accountable to the honor system they're depending on by allowing employees to log their name and temp honestly instead of paying someone to sit at the door and play gatekeeper.

What "employee" information are they letting people have access to? A number? Big deal. Your name? I get so much spam mail from companies wanting to schedule meetings with me to demo their stuff so we'll buy it. Your name, and the fact that you work at Cisco is easily available to people who want it. If your temperature is a hill you want to die on, go ahead and fight this. I'm more concerned about protecting my social security number and date of birth.

A Sacramento testing center is being investigated.

Ok first of all there was never a need for them to leave this information, unless the goal was to shame someone with a high temperature into staying home.

True.

Second some of the lobby doors are not locked during the day and anyone can walk in and have access to employee information.

Both my dentist and my doctor do not have sheets of paper with patients name and temperature out on the counter in plain sight, for others to see. The pharmacist aslo requires patients to stay back from other patients, so as not to share each other's information. Probably we should be all be doing the same? Cisco is not above the law?

My dentist's office has a greeter in the lobby who takes your temperature and writes it in a log book on a table by the door next to your name/appointment time.

I don't think they leave it open for anyone to see, and they'd ask anyone who tried to look in the book what they were doing if someone tried, but you could, theoretically, get a picture. And since they're a dentist office, which is in the health industry directly impacted by HIPAA than Cisco would ever be.

My hair place used to take our temps too, but they didn't write them down. You just had to not have a fever to enter. The VA and Duke Hospitals/clinics also have screeners who take people's temp, but don't record the data anywhere. They do, however, give you colored arm bands or stickers that indicate if you have a fever or not.

I think this it taking HIPAA to an absurd extreme. I have an issue, where my wife had to order CPAP supplies from a company. They keep losing her HIPAA release form saying they can discuss her medical info with me, so they refuse to discuss her bill with me or let me update the health insurance info even though I'm listed as the financially responsible insurance holder. She's hard of hearing, and can't hear them, so she hates to call them. She has to put the phone on speaker phone so I can hear the questions they ask and repeat them for her so she can answer them to verify who she is so she can then tell them to talk to me, but they then think I'm using some random female to feed them the answers and won't talk to me. If I was going to go to that much trouble, I'd use my daughter who can hear and have all the data written down for her. I don't see how telling them to re-file the bill with the corrected insurance info, or question why the insurance wasn't billed before sending me the bill is a violation of her HIPAA rights. I'm telling them, not asking them.

Craziest post ever.

They will all be removed on Monday morning.

"Take a picture and call your local district attorney's office."

No. Fu-k off already.

Omicron is no coughing matter.

They are also counting the number of coughs through webex microphones.

I have seen months worth of people's temperatures in many locations throughout.

Pages and pages and pages of medical information was left in plain sight for months and years.

All of this was recorded.

All the security footage can verify this information.

It is true that your body temperature can be indicator of poor health.

And so, it is in fact, medical information.

Yes, in fact that is precisely why they forced employees to record their - you guessed it - medical information.

They don't call it medical information, for no reason folks.

It was never the company's information. They broke the law.

someone said:
"unless your company is in the health business, it wouldn't be a HIPAA violation. HIPAA does not apply to information collected by your employer. (Again, unless your employer is a covered entity in the health business)"

The POTUS should have NOT got them in the health business... Then got them in the Layoff.business.

But, NOW we ARE here.

Because they management got sucked into the Biden administration's folly.

How far do we want to take this then?

"Any identifiable information (ex. name) linked to any type of medical factor (temperature) is a HIPAA violation. "

Umm... So if someone takes an unflattering directory photo, and is overweight, isn't that identifiable information of being obese?

Just do away too with all directory photos too as they show "identifiable" "medical factors".

Not pointing out folks that need to loose weight (probably most of us), but how is pictures with a temperature even relevant to anything whatsoever?

Who cares, and what does any of it matter?

I agree 100% that it shouldn't be left in plain view, as far as that goes.
However, unless your company is in the health business, it wouldn't be a HIPAA violation. HIPAA does not apply to information collected by your employer. (Again, unless your employer is a covered entity in the health business)

Any identifiable information (ex. name) linked to any type of medical factor (temperature) is a HIPAA violation. That should not be documented anywhere.

What is a HIPAA Violation? The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability, or HIPAA, violations happen when the acquisition, access, use or disclosure of Protected Health Information (PHI) is done in a way that results in a significant personal risk of the patient.

Something which can be observed when you're just walking through probably isn't a HIPAA violation. Your body temp being public in no way represents a significant personal risk to you.