Let’s light the candle on Vax mandate thread v2!
So far the court systems have shutdown the multiple executives orders for vaccine mandates. Private companies like Cisco can still try and impose mandates in their employees. Cisco said that the mandates were only because of the governments mandates and they had to comply. There are crickets from ELT.
What do you think?
"Time to turn off Fox News. The vaccines have received full FDA approval now."
Only Pfizer for 16+ and the actual approved version is not available. It blows my mind that we don't even know how many doses are required of the vaccine because "science evolves" yet we insist we know the vaccines are long term safe. How is this possible?
"The vaccines have received full FDA approval now"
Umm, you may want to look into that. There is only one FDA approved (not authorized) Covid vaccine and it is not available in the US. It is literally not available.
If it is, please share where it is available to get.
No noticeably physical defects in the short term probably. Maybe a few de@ths. Long term results TBD. However, mental capacity may range between slow and slower. I noticed my colleagues who took the vaccine have slowed down in their jobs and not remembering deadlines or details like before. Could be coincidental but we will never know.
What, they're burned out and just don't give a sh-t any more? Or they're doing more work, so they have more details to keep straight and more deadlines to juggle?
It's been made political. What medical procedures people do or don't is no ones business. Not the feds or Cisco. Look at the court rulings. Mandating coercing and forcing is already wrong, but there are no FDA approved vaccines available to use, no long term safety and efficacy studies, and the vaccines available are only emergency use authorized. Many boosted coworkers are showing signs of autoimmune conditions and are mentally foggy.
Time to turn off Fox News. The vaccines have received full FDA approval now. I think it's only the booster shots or vaccinating kids that are still under the EUA. How many is "many"? Since the mandatory WFH, I only deal w/ my immediate team, none of whom are showing signs of autoimmune conditions. At least before, I could talk to dozens of other people in the break room or the cafes, but not now. As to mentally foggy, yes, I'm foggy. It's damn hard to keep track of the days when it's wake up, sit at the same desk and work, then watch TV or read a book in the evening, go to sleep and do it all over again. Without social conversations in person to distinguish one day from another, they just all blur together.
"From what I hear the people that got vaxxed after the mandatory notification have already started counsel for a class action suit".
Don't you have to show you have been harmed in some way? Those that got vaccinated are safer today then before the vaccination.
"Nurenburg 2.0" - CRAZY
Let's Go Frandon!
Dear Cisco US Employees,
As I'm sure many of you have seen, a federal court issued a nationwide order to pause the Biden Administration's federal contractor vaccine mandate. We are currently reviewing these developments to understand the impact on our current vaccination processes and policy .
We will be communicating more details over the course of the next few days as our team works through the developments and understands potential impact more clearly, but we wanted to communicate with you immediately knowing that people would have questions following the news. We also have a Cisco Leader and Company Check-In next week, and as always, we encourage you to bring any questions you may have to those conversations.
Thank you for your patience and understanding as we navigate this complex and ever-changing situation together.
Best,
Fran
I hope that your friend is healing and regaining her health. She is not alone
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"Don't you have to show you have been harmed in some way? Those that got vaccinated are safer today then before the vaccination."
A friend of mine was injured by the covid shot after being forced to take it by this company. She had a severe allergic reaction. Not safer, not better, sicker and certainly a valid add to the case.
Cisco ELT is very likely to be personally implicated in Nurenburg 2.0 for all the pain and suffering they have caused.
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"Don't you have to show you have been harmed in some way? Those that got vaccinated are safer today then before the vaccination."
A friend of mine was injured by the covid shot after being forced to take it by this company. She had a severe allergic reaction. Not safer, not better, sicker and certainly a valid add to the case.
Cisco ELT is very likely to be personally implicated in Nurenburg 2.0 for all the pain and suffering they have caused.
"From what I hear the people that got vaxxed after the mandatory notification have already started counsel for a class action suit".
Don't you have to show you have been harmed in some way? Those that got vaccinated are safer today then before the vaccination.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the mandate halted. My guess would be Cisco postpones a decision as well. For a corporation to swim that far out of their lane to force medical decisions on their employees would open up tons of lawsuits. From what I hear the people that got vaxxed after the mandatory notification have already started counsel for a class action suit
Yeah yeah, we are all d-mb and should be put in camps. Got any thoughts that have a little higher resolution?
And is that the next phase of this? Continue to ramp up discrimination for wrong think?
If you think that this is unique to the US I would suggest looking at some new sources. Massive protest against lockdowns and mandates.
See the other thread above.
RTP is closing and being turned into a COVID containment camp.
Work will set you free.
You can be sure that those that are anti-vaxxed are known by their co-workers at this point. That will reflect negatively on them much longer than this pandemic will last. It shinned a light on the sc--w ba--s.
"Goes back to pondering how much I should sue for"
Go big. Anything under a billion is a disgrace. Don't hesitate to spend all your savings on this, victory is guaranteed.
"is getting or not getting vaccinated political"
No. Except of course in the US of A where anything the other party initiates is the work of the devil and must be undone ASAP.
Cisco during legal discovery
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"...There will be a litigation nightmare for the company..."
Correct. Cisco and many other companies let a senile old president get them in trouble. Now they are going to pay the price. They are going to try and use "It was a mandate by the president. What were we supposed to do?" Nope. Not going to fly. If the president comes out tomorrow with a mandate that everyone has to show up to work na--d or get fired, of course they wouldn't follow it. Way to drop the ball here Cisco.
Goes back to pondering how much I should sue for
What are these companies doing Cisco?
Extreme Networks (Aerohive)
Broadcom
Fortinet
Huawei
Juniper and Mist (considered)
Arris (Ruckus)
Ubiquiti
Nvidia (Mellanox and Cumulus)
It was obvious that the mandate was illegal and would be overturned by the courts. If Cisco's lawyers advised otherwise, they should be terminated. There will be a litigation nightmare for the company as a direct result of the campaign of te---r and discrimination inflicted on employees.
It's been made political. What medical procedures people do or don't is no ones business. Not the feds or Cisco. Look at the court rulings. Mandating coercing and forcing is already wrong, but there are no FDA approved vaccines available to use, no long term safety and efficacy studies, and the vaccines available are only emergency use authorized. Many boosted coworkers are showing signs of autoimmune conditions and are mentally foggy.
Is getting or not getting vaccinated political?
No noticeably physical defects in the short term probably. Maybe a few de@ths. Long term results TBD. However, mental capacity may range between slow and slower. I noticed my colleagues who took the vaccine have slowed down in their jobs and not remembering deadlines or details like before. Could be coincidental but we will never know.
Were you not on the US check in? Multiple employees had severe adverse reactions and stated so in the huge discussion. At least one hospitalized. Cisco told them to file for workers comp.
How many employees got forced into taking the poison only to find out they are just fine, nothing happened.....no 5G, no extra limbs, just damn near nothing but vaccinated.
First off the lawyers have to do research on the subject because they bill by the hour, no black and white here. Heck we might need some consultants to help along the way. Will the ELT share the number of employees that are vaccinated? I saw today that a number of the companies doing this stated 96% and 97% vaccine rates....would really like to see what Cisco's is
Just an excuse to get rid of people and not pay severance.
"Cisco has te--orized their employees, allowed coworkers to attack each other, and is allowing discrimination (especially from managers and leaders). Cisco is going to try and push this until their forced shutdown with mandatory PTO and leave employees and their families in the dark over even more holidays. It's incredible what employees, their family, and their friends have had to deal with."
Exactly what I was thinking!!!!
The emotional strain is tremendous. Both physical and mental health has been damaged. I have lost all respect for the ELT.
Cisco started to slow walk this a couple of weeks ago. They sent a generic and purposefully vague email today because they don't know how to push their agenda now. And there has been nothing from the CEO for some time.
They want the mandate but they blamed the federal government and are now trying to navigate what to do. If they didn't want to have a mandate, they would have announced today that until further notice their mandate is suspended. Cisco previously gave an incredibly small window to comply, why would they have an issue in doing so again if the federal contractor memo somehow does resume?
Cisco has te--orized their employees, allowed coworkers to attack each other, and is allowing discrimination (especially from managers and leaders). Cisco is going to try and push this until their forced shutdown with mandatory PTO and leave employees and their families in the dark over even more holidays. It's incredible what employees, their family, and their friends have had to deal with.
Understand it's not about how many are planning to walk over this issue, it's who. These people are the talent that keeps the machine running and provide the innovation, not the globalist sycophants that add nothing to the company or its products.
The trust is broken, and can't be fixed without 86'ing the Executive team, Blackrock policymakers, and the cancerous Perkins-Coie lawyers that infest the upper ranks.
“Get vaxxed and get back to normal” ROFL bro this man acts like there aren’t boosted people worldwide getting and spreading omicron. You might as well have said “Comply so the tyrants will stop”. Guess what genius? NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO STOP AND YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK TO NORMAL THROUGH COMPLIANCE. Unless of course, your version of normal is perpetually injecting yourself with experimental gene therapies immediately upon their release from megacorporations while you wear a mask alone forever
no
Get vaxxed and get back to normal.
If the unvaccinated can't be purged, Cisco's inclusive future for all will include people that they don't want!!
I think that it is incredibly clear Cisco will arrive at the decision they want without considering people.
There's a reason that its culture is in the state that it is.
The vaccine mandate is on hold nation wide right now. But that's probably going to be challenged, then reversed again, and again, and then again. In the meantime, I guess Cisco and several other large corporations are proceeding without worrying about recent court rulings.
Cisco is following the federal contractors mandate which was temporarily blocked for a second time today, this time nationwide. This means the Federal Government cannot enforce the mandate at least temporarily while the case moves its way through the judicial system. It will be interesting to see how the ELT responds to this new development with the date for transitioning out employees not in compliance less than a month away. I would hope Cisco would delay this transition if the block remains in place during the upcoming shutdown, however, hard to say what they will do. Whatever the decision it will be driven by concern for the business, not people.
Personally, I can't wait to see all the really nice things people will say about each other in this thread!